Posted on 08/03/2004 12:09:31 PM PDT by dead
See this graph showing INCREASES to the VA budget:
http://www.house.gov/budget/fy05fd032504chart32.pdf
"Who gives a shiite what you think ego bucko?"
How very civil of you. You know you just posted that to a Freeper, not to Perlstein? No, I guess you don't.
made my strongest such claim in a Village Voice article two weeks ago in which I, after much thought, chose to say conservatism was "verging on becoming an un-American creed" for the widespread way conservatives are ignoring the lessons of James Madison's great insights in Federalist 51 that in America we are supposed to place our ultimate trust in laws, not men.
Mr Perstein:
Two part question:
1. What examples can you site of conservatives doing what you claim above?
2. Is it your claim that liberals do not engage in this behavior?
Thank you...
----
1. Did you read the article? Read "Church of Bush" and you'll find my cites.
2. There is a specific warning in Fed 51: that charismatic leaders will seek to change the institutions of government to favor themselves. Yes, I think conservatives do this more egregiously. Tip O'Neill once kept a congressional vote open for 15 minutes to twist arms, and that was not kosher. By contrast, Tom DeLay and Hastert kept the medicare vote open for THREE HOURS, and threatened a congressman that they would destroy his son's congressional campaign if he did not vote that way. Yes, politics is a tough game. But Republicans have recently been stretching their indecency beyond bounds.
RP
Of course, two years after Bush made his pledge, only 2 percent of the AIDS money has been distributed (in any event, it will mainly go to drug companies).
Why is money going to "drug companies" a bad thing, as you imply with your phrasing? Would it be so the drugs they manufacture can then be produced in order to help those suffering from AIDs? What is wrong with that? How do you propose the "drug companies" research and produce medicines if not with funding?
And appearing earnest in the presence of African Americans has been a documented Bush strategy for wooing moderate voters since the beginning.
As noted earlier, your perception meter is way off kilter. President Bush does not "appear" as anything but himself. What you are observing that is so foreign to your eyes is a man who respects people. Hard as that is for you to believe, all evidence points that way.
My question for you is, does the phrase "never again" only apply to the Jewish folk or should it also apply to Cambodians, Laotians, Rwandans, Kosovites, Shia and Kurds alike?
Should America not act when and where it can to prevent genocide or is the moral high ground occupies by the bearded guy on the corner holding the sign that says "War Never Solves Anything"?
I say this because I am an American conservative informed by my religious faith. I understand that America can not do everything but when our interests are coincident with the removal of genocidal lunatics, to do nothing is not only immoral but stupid.
The Middle East is a tough nut. It wasn't so tough when Jimmy Carter midwifed jihadism into existence. It would be much tougher, if we had not lanced the boil and given 50 million souls a chance at the brass ring of freedom,20 years hence.
I would be happy to argue the practical causes of deposing the Ba'athists if you'd prefer to avoid arguing the case for genocidal lunatics though. :-}
Other than "because they have nukes and we can't do anything about it," can you think of any reason why we put up with Pakistan's long-running and continuing support for terrortist who want to kill us?
Isn't there a bar open near you somewhere? Time's a wastin'
Order me a black and tan.
Quick vote: who thinks I should have to respond to the guy who holds me personally responsible for Pol Pot and Janet Reno's raid in Waco? I'm willing if you think I should.
Rick
John Kerry - there is no there, there!
OK, where are the pre-war statistics on murders, rapes, torture, gallons of anthrax created, &c...?
Those statistics show nothing other than war is bad and peace is better.
Gee Whiz man! Those statistics show that war is absolute chaos and Iraq is starting to stabilize!
How you can see anything different is symptomatic of the extraordinary ill-will you bear America and her current administration.
Thanks for the ping, dead. Will check out the debate later...
Thanks for the ping Meek,
but I am NOT going to waste
my precious time reading left
wing hatred from this Perlstein moron.
"Rick, the fact of the matter is Iraq is a breathtaking and brilliant success that will be studied for years and hailed well into the future. You need more information from better sourcing in order to make informed opinions."
I'm not Rick, but are you lending out your crystal ball? Seriously, exactlty how do you know this for a fact? What are your sources for this amazing prediction of the future?
Mind you, I'm not saying you're wrong, but dang I wish I could time travel, too.
Why don't you answer my 2 above instead......Libs who grew up cushy like you never want to deal with conservatives who made it on their own like me.
They may not be the majority here, but they ARE HERE. I regularly see two factions:
1) Bush (and most of the GOP Congress) are better than Kerry (and the Dims) We must accept them.
2) Bush (and the GOP Congress) are not faithful enough to Conservative principles. We need to send them a message.
Both have a point. We don't want to go backward (Kerry), but we have to do something to move forward (Constitution Party?)
It's comical how the left argues spending decreases....they truly want the populace to believe that everyone is starving and drinking arsenic....
The bottom line is the fed govt. has never decreased spending on anything period
1. How would you define the term "tolerance"? I am of the opinion that today's liberal is all too willing to tolerate various alternative lifestyles, but that tolerance ends when the subject of evangelical Christianity is presented to them.
2. Christians are criticized roundly for not being "inclusive", particularly with regard to the gay agenda. Yet the Bible is clear on homosexual behavior, regardless of how various liberal theologians have tried to reinvent Scripture. Are Christians required to simply turn a blind eye to Scripture in order to perceived as inclusive, and if that is the case, why is this viewpoint not seen as intolerant?
3. I find today's liberal to be patronizing when it comes to minorities (I am a Texas born American of hispanic origin). In that patronizing attitude, I find a racism that is far more insidious than the racism that conservatives are accused of. Tell me why I am wrong about racism among liberals that I find to be obvious.
4. John Kerry will never answer this question, but perhaps you will. Who would you define as the "rich" in this country?
5. Liberals, in speaking of higher taxes to pay for social programs, talk of an obligation people have to give back for the "greater good". Hillary Clinton herself spoke of this very recently. Bill Clinton several years ago spoke of this when talking about tax cuts, his quote being something to the effect of "we could give you back the surplus in the form of a tax cut and hope you do the right thing with it". Do you believe the government to be the best instrument for "giving back" to society and why do you believe this? Why do liberals assume that people will do the wrong thing with their money if they are allowed to keep their earnings through tax cuts?
6. Why are minority liberals not called on the carpet for clearly racist statements they make in public?
7. Liberals tend to go nuts when Christians pray in public or do anything on public grounds that would be perceived as religious, yet muslims are given a pass in this regard. Why does this occur?
All for now. Thanks.
Instead of cutting and pasting previous works, why not debate with your original thoughts?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.