[ampat]

Those diesels won't have much of a chance. The minute they start runing their engines to charge batteries, we'll pick up the low level sound. They have to do that many times during their transit to firing range. That of course doesn't take into account any coast watchers/satellites that monitor their comings and goings.

[NJ_gent]

"Those diesels won't have much of a chance. The minute they start runing their engines to charge batteries, we'll pick up the low level sound. They have to do that many times during their transit to firing range. That of course doesn't take into account any coast watchers/satellites that monitor their comings and goings."

The myth of the invincible America is what made September 11th possible in the first place. Continuing to believe that myth at the expense of active defense against real and present threats will invariably result in catastrophic events with mass American casualties.

[Bob]

Those diesels won't have much of a chance. The minute they start runing their engines to charge batteries, we'll pick up the low level sound. They have to do that many times during their transit to firing range. That of course doesn't take into account any coast watchers/satellites that monitor their comings and goings.

From the instant that any of them leaves port, I'm quite certain that they'll have one of our nuke attack subs shadowing them (and they probably won't even know it).

[El Gato]

Those diesels won't have much of a chance. The minute they start runing their engines to charge batteries, we'll pick up the low level sound. They have to do that many times during their transit to firing range. That of course doesn't take into account any coast watchers/satellites that monitor their comings and goings.

They'd still be useful for a "bolt from the blue" type attack. We most likely are not going to sink their ships or subs operating on the open seas before hostilities start. Of course once they start, it won't matter because the birds will no longer be in the nest, so to speak.

[chilepepper]

exactly. diesel pigboats are great as a close in line of defense, and suck seawater for long-range offense projection...