Posted on 08/03/2004 4:49:17 AM PDT by Dane
..."This is definitely a transitional year," said Andrea Koncz, a NACE spokesperson. NACE releases its "Salary Survey" quarterly, with the final report for the 2003-2004 recruiting year due in September.
Engineering majors are seeing the most cash, led by gains from chemical engineering graduates who now earn $52,819 a year, up 1.9 percent from a year earlier. Computer engineering graduates are following closely behind with $51,572, but that figure represents a 0.3 percent decrease from last year.
Those graduating with a degree in computer science are seeing heartier increases. According to NACE, information sciences and systems graduates earn $43,053 a year, up 8.2 percent from a year earlier, while computer science graduates make $49,691 a year, up 4.8 percent...
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I sure hope you're not giving her a penny. My brother wanted to major in creative writing and my parents cured him of that really quickly.
Hopefully not in a puddle of water.
I bet it's due to the reduction of H1-Bs. There are a lot of computer jobs that must be performed on-site and cannot be offshored.
I've never believed in "degree as meal ticket."
No matter what the field, you're worth exectly what you negotiate, not a penny more or a penny less.
Probably where it was after I graduated, a good deal above AE. <bangs head on desk in tiny cubicle>
The great thing about getting an economics degree is that I can accurately explain why I'm unemployed.
Wow, I make more than my peers - what a happy thought.
It is because I was able to trick the USAF into making me an LT despite my major in International Relations.
Do you have your own practice?
I've got an English degree, and I'm a software developer (front end design and implementation for voice applications). English is a fine "general" undergrad degree.
Um, of course, I have a second bachelor's degree and went on to earn 2 master's degrees. But the inclusion of a degree in English is not necessarily a bad thing.
In the end, if all she gets is a degree in English, that may be a helpful thing if she decides to homeschool her kids! :-D
Take courage, my friend! :-)
I has hired as an auditor 4 years ago, my starting salary was $29,000, but after less than 4 year I'm making $65,000 and could easily be making $80,000 if I wanted to relocate.
Many students are turned off from accounting / auditing because it's viewws as boring and not as glamorous as some of the other business professions like marketing. But this hasn't been my experience at all, there is a lot of interesting travel and far less number crunching than most people imagine.
Some kids would probably do well with that. Others just wouldn't have the skills necessary to either "do" anything or manage the books. Still others would be like the prodigal son and spend it all on partying.
That said, there are many who'd do well with the plan you suggest. College is not absolutely "necessary" -- in my field (software development) I have coworkers with no degrees who are fine developers. Nobody ultimately cares about your "degree" -- they care if you can get the work done well.
The most "lucrative" career of all though is the priesthood. How much is a saved soul worth?
You are absolutely correct!
Also, the chart doesn't tell you how many of the jobs showing increases are in parts of the country that normally have higher costs of living (and thus higher compensation.) If there's been a big shift from St. Louis to Chicago (as *is* the case), then you'd see a corresponding rise in salaries - when in actuality the rise in salary often does *not* keep up with the cost of living.
People interested in what's really going on in the EE and CS job market should read something like EE Times - the picture isn't anywhere near as rosy.
Just my anecdotal experience.
There is a ray of hopelessness. Didn't you see the "0.3 percent decrease from last year"? Gloomy forecast, I tell ya!
Hubby owns auto repair shop - there is a CRITICAL shortage of certified auto techs!!! A good tech, go-getter type cuz it's not an "easy" job, can make $80,000 - $100,000 just several years into their career (5-7+ years)!! Hooking up with Mercedes or BMW dealerships can get you more and many times THEY will purchase the tools a tech needs to start cooking, after graduation. Tools and tool boxes ARE A MAJOR EXPENSE for a newbie!!
There's nothing wrong with being an English major - *if* the person actually takes hard courses with substantial content (British literature, 18th & 19th c. American literature, technical writing, editing, publishing.)
If you can, persuade them to also take some management or business courses as a minor and learn the computer & web design skills used in modern offices.
They can administer an office; run a not-for-profit; edit a professional journal; work for an engineering firm as a tech writer; work as a journalist; go into business for themselves.
People who get into trouble spend their time on "Gender Inequities in Modern Fiction" and other road-apples like that. If they stay away from the no-brain PC stuff, even English majors with ancillary skills can get living-wage jobs.
Where are the MATH folks??
How come Philosophy majors aren't on that list?
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