I am not a Muslim.
I am making a point.
God is compassionate and merciful whether your mouth says "God", "Dios", or "Allah". If the terrorists believed that, they would think twice whether killing women and children is "merciful". But it is true nonetheless - - no matter how you say it.
And I am only saying what Billy (not Franklin) Graham said in the past.
We worship the same God.
If David Koresh said that "Jesus" told him to rape little girls and set everyone on fire, that does not mean there is a problem with Jesus/Y'shua/Issa. The problem was with Koresh.
If certain Muslims, say "Allah" has told them to kill all infidels, including innocent women and children, the problem is not with "Allah", it is with the killers who justify their crimes in his Name.
I know Christ personally, and we are called to redeem, not destroy.
If you knew Him, you would understand.
We can and will act in self defense, but a declaration of war against an entire religion (instead of a small, deviant strain as the 9/11 Commission calls it - "political Islam") such a war is a "holy war".
Do not tell Christians who speak Arabic that they worship "Satan".
If you know your scriptures, Christ taught there is only one sin that is unforgivable.
And if you believe it is our mission to kill all Muslims.
Then, my friend, you are a holy warrior, a follower of jihad.
And it is just as evil.
As President Bush says and believes, Islam is a religion of peace.
Those who hate all Muslims simply because they are Muslims are no better than those who hate all Christians because they are Christians.
The last Holy War lasted three centuries. And none of them acted very "holy".
If this is what the board has become (Christian jihadis), I'll take my leave.
This is the recipe for apocalypse.
Since you've only been a member of FR for a mere three weeks, you are in no position to postulate as to what this board has become.
Amen Calmjoe
What you are trying to say is that God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.
It is Satan that manipulates man to box God into something that fits mans own ideaology for whatever they want to do. God is as God is.
Although we all "worship" the same God because there is only one, man has twisted his being into many "versions" for his own sake to justify mans own actions.
There is only one God and he is merciful and is vengeful at the same time. Evil cannot survive in his sight..it cant exists where pure good shines.
In order for man to do Satans deeds, Satan must perverse mans view of God so that man can be manipulated into doing them.
Yet God remains the same for all of us, whether we are right in our view of Him or wrong. If someone understands him in a perverted way, they are yet worshipping him, but on mans terms, not Gods. In the end they will be proven wrong because God will not be mocked.
As an example:
Lets say there are two tribes in the jungle. Both worship the sun.
But one tribe worships a sun god that takes light away each evening. He takes the light from the world and makes it dark and cold.
The other tribe worships a sun god that brings light from the darkness and makes all things seen. He makes things grow and makes them warm.
Both tribes worship the same sun god, but their view of the sun god's actions are distorted. Yet the sun remains the same in its function and its deeds.
Joe, you did react defensively and Christian Jihads, Christ's Soldiers?!
Yes, we are going to protect ourselves, we have the right to DEFEND ourselves from extremists born out of the following 'religion' who have declared their JIHAD on us from Day one!!!
Why are you so offended by Christians here?
If you were a Christian you would understand fair questions asked of you. Those questions were asked due to what 'you' posted. You would understand give/take debate, instead of reacting like someone attacked you personally.
Many of us here are not even religious, for someone who claims to be Christian, you seem awful hateful to me in reference to them, that has me puzzled. And if you are a Christian amongst many {not all btw} why on earth would you take leave?
And also Joe, the FOLLOWING is the recipe for apocalypse:
It sure is NOT Christians!:
READ IF YOU DARE to know TRUTH:
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There is but one Islam, a singular correct view of Muhammad, his religion, and his god. It is the one found in the Qur’an and Hadith. There is no independent record of Muhammad in history from which a variant view may be drawn. The Hadith and Qur’an are the sole repository of information on this man, his times, means, and mission.
The Muhammad of Islam, the god of Islam, and the religion of Islam must be as these sources present them. Prophet of Doom is dedicated to exposing Islam’s scriptures and what Muhammad had to say about himself, his ambition, religion, and god.
{{{Islam rises and falls on Muhammad. He is the doctrine’s sole prophet, its lone founder, its god’s singular conduit.}}}
Yet the picture the Islamic scriptures paint is not flattering. I analyzed the five most holy Islamic books and spent two years studying Muhammad and his message. What I found was bone chilling. The depiction of the prophet by the most revered Muslim sources is horrendous.
{{{Nearly every page reveals behavior that is immoral, criminal, and violent.}}}
{{{The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don’t portray Muhammad as a great and godly man.}}}
They reveal that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained sexual pervert engaged in pedophilia, incest, and rape. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide. He was a pirate, not a prophet. According to the Hadith and the Qur’an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity. And by putting the Qur’an in chronological order and correlating it with the context of Muhammad’s life as it was reported in the Sira, Sunnah and Hadith, we also find that Allah mirrored his prophet’s character.
{{{Muhammad’s god condoned immoral and criminal behavior. }}}
{{{Allah boasts about being a terrorist.}}}
He claims to have deceived men, to have stolen their property, to have enslaved women and children, to having committed acts of murder, genocide, and sadistic tortures.
{{{Islam has been at war with everyone, including itself,}}}
for 1400 years. In Prophet Of Doom you’ll see why Muslims celebrate their “victories,” no matter how many innocents perish. You’ll learn why their state-controlled media promotes terror. You’ll know why their state-controlled schools teach hate. It will become evident why imams encourage martyrdom and jihad. You will discover Islam’s goals and read what it has to say about itself. You will see how violent conquest, racist genocide, and the spoils of war established the doctrine and turned a failed prophet into a world-renowned profiteer.
VERY IMPORTANT:
I recognize that these words are incompatible with the prevailing notions of our politicians, religious leaders, and media. Yet the evidence is unambiguous and ubiquitous.
NOTE:
{{{The truth is undeniable: today’s terrorists haven’t corrupted their religion. Islam has corrupted them. They are following their prophet’s example.}}}
Recognizing that most people don’t have the will, time, or means to invest 10,000 hours into the study of Islam, I have done the heavy lifting for you. I have distilled the salient parts of the five earliest and most holy Islamic books into one: the Qur’an, and the inspired Sunnah collections of Ibn Ishaq’s Sira, al-Tabari’s History, and Bukhari’s and Muslim’s Hadith. And rather than taking them out of context, they have been rearranged chronologically. A running commentary is provided so as to hold them accountable.
{{{You will see Muhammad, Allah, and Islam as they really are.}}}
The story that unfolds in their scriptures starts out foolish, turns hateful, then punitive, violent, and repulsive. Muhammad’s first Qur’anic revelations are demonic, fixated on disgusting depictions of hell, pain, punishment and “entertainment.” {{{And that’s the good part.}}}
The moment Muhammad and his gang slither out of Mecca, they pick up the sword and never put it down. What you are going to read from the Islamic scriptures will shake you to your core—you will be revolted and terrified—
{{{especially if you’re a Muslim.}}}
And that is the purpose of this book. I want the world—especially Muslims—to know Muhammad, Allah, and Islam as they are presented in their scriptures. Most rational men and women will conclude that Muhammad was a pirate, not a prophet, and that a god who is principally vengeful, forgetful, contradictory, and irrational might not be a god after all. It is the only rational conclusion that can be drawn. It’s based upon the evidence—Muhammad’s words and deeds as they were reported in the Islamic scriptures. Islam condemns Islam sufficiently to persuade even the most ardent skeptic.
{{{There is almost no mention of peace, tolerance, or love. We have been played for fools.}}}
We have the opportunity and responsibility to diagnose this disease before it consumes our life, liberty, and prosperity.
Craig Winn, author of Prophet Of Doom
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
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This book is online FREE Joe..
and after you have read the entire book or even our President reads the entire book, he would have to through his PC crap about Islam onto the White House lawn and so do you about :
ISLAM being the religion of PEACE!