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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Sixteen
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Posted on 08/02/2004 5:12:31 PM PDT by JustPiper

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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
I am sure there must be a word in Arabic for GOD in Arabic that is not related to the MOON god which is pagan worship.

Allah means "God" as in the "One and only" in Arabic. There is absolutely no reference to him being a moon God in the language. Whether he is or not, that's up to you, but there is no other word for “the God” in Arabic. Most Arabs were pagans before Islam coalesced after Muhammad created the religion. The Kab'ah (big black box in Mecca) used to be filled with Pagan idols that the Arabs worshipped; they were destroyed after the Qur'an was written.

3,421 posted on 08/08/2004 3:59:39 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: liz44040

I am even more intrigued by all this now since it is reported that it was the ny slimes that blew Khan's cover. Now I wonder who it is that sung to the slimes?


3,422 posted on 08/08/2004 4:00:12 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: HipShot
It's a wonder they didn't have film crews at the ready.

I suppose ABC hadn't yet caught on to the al jazeera tactic of just happening to be around when attacks against the US in Iraq take place.

3,423 posted on 08/08/2004 4:02:17 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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This is my son's camPAIN idea ;)

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3,424 posted on 08/08/2004 4:02:21 PM PDT by JustPiper (I hate the assembly of evildoers - I will not sit with the wicked)
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To: HipShot; All

Good day everybody! I just logged on for the day. Can anybody tell me if that picture of the plane and dome ever got translated? If so, what post is it?


3,425 posted on 08/08/2004 4:02:31 PM PDT by knak
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
FWIW, one of them (NY SLIMES) is supposed to get raked over the coals by O'REILLEY tonight. Should be pretty good.
3,426 posted on 08/08/2004 4:02:32 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: Diogenesis; All

NOTE:
We cannot remember if this was said by Peter Fitgerald,or someone else, so we cannot creidt the quote, but it WAS said!

Dio, please spread this aorund ;)

3,427 posted on 08/08/2004 4:04:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (I hate the assembly of evildoers - I will not sit with the wicked)
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To: nwctwx

You certainly sound like a very kind, thoughtful person to me, but the key to your 'problem' might just be exactly what you said; 'based on what I learned in college' and that would give you nothing but a sanitized PC version of islam. (one of the great middle eastern religions etc.)

No reading of the koran or the numerous volumes of hadith of which there are more than 60 volumes, will teach you what you need to know about islam.

To understand this belief system one must know of the life of the 'prophet' and how the 'revelations' came about. The young mohammad was a vagrant who spent much time on the temple steps gaining knowledge of monotheism from Hebrew wise men. When driven out by the townsfolk, he and his small band of beggars found shelter in a village of Jews, where further knowledge was gained of Hebrew scripture.

Mohammad 'tailored' the God of Israel to suit his own ends, in his quest for power. Allah speaks with mohammad's voice because mohammad is allah, whose voice he heard in his head (mohammad said!)

Don't you think it's strange that very few muslims even know of the existence of a biography of their 'prophet'? And are certainly not encouraged to read it. (Most don't read the koran, either.)

Please read the biography of the 'prophet'...discover how and when and why the 'revelations' came about. Neither God nor allah or even the devil had anything to do with it. Mohammad was a cunning and extremely cruel creature who was abandoned by his mother and suffered from epilepsy plus numerous chiziod episodes. Were he alive today, he would probably be medicated and locked up.

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3,428 posted on 08/08/2004 4:05:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; HipShot
Our posts can be downright deceiving and make us cringe because after we post them we more easily see how they can be taken the wrong way sometimes.

That's one of the reasons I would support an "edit" function. We always see our posts better once they are posted.

An edit function would be wonderful, one of the things FR lacks that would be of great use.

3,429 posted on 08/08/2004 4:05:10 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: Oorang

Thanks Oorang. I think we can work out a good balance without stepping on any toes.


3,430 posted on 08/08/2004 4:06:57 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: knak

No one will give us a real translation. All we got was a round about slam at the Evangelical Christians and something about the stadium being a mosque (hilarious isn't it!). I think it must contain something. I am going to find someone I know to give me a real translation.


3,431 posted on 08/08/2004 4:09:05 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Fred Nerks

I have no doubt that what I have been taught in a Liberal college by Muslim teachers is slightly misleading. I have done a fair amount of reading on my own on the subject as well, also likely slightly biased. I

I do not really even buy into Islam being a true religion as a whole (most of the concepts were stolen from Christianity and Judaism and retooled by Muhammad to fit his needs IMO). I know that he learned a great deal about the other Abrahamic religions in his travels as a merchant throughout the Arabian peninsula and ME.

I will take a look at the PDF, thanks.


3,432 posted on 08/08/2004 4:10:04 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Excellent post!

I love Jooooooooooo's too. So much I married one, and added several more smaller Jooooooooooooo's to the family...LOL


On a serious note, my love for them dictates I do everything to protect them from what threatens them.


3,433 posted on 08/08/2004 4:10:16 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: ExSoldier

I last heard that we put out contracts for more ammunition a few months ago. I am sorry to hear that the U.S. firms definitely cannot meet the demand fast enough. Folks were worried about that. Well, I hope we only reach out to suppliers based in one of the few remaining "friendly" nations. China, Russia, France, Germany, etc., need not apply.


3,434 posted on 08/08/2004 4:12:51 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Selene

The main title says what the other person stated it says.

As far as the rest, I can only pick out several words here and there... they are all quite benign, in and of themselves. In my first year of studying Arabic, we have focused mostly on words that are used quite often; country names, prounouns, adjectives, some governmental offices, etc. I do not know enough just yet to translate a big document, hopefully I will be able to in another year...


3,435 posted on 08/08/2004 4:12:55 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx
but there is no other word for “the God” in Arabic. Most Arabs were pagans before Islam coalesced after Muhammad created the religion.
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Do you see from what you posted above how the evil has taken over the whole culture? There is no choice of free will. Do we agree that allah is the moon god and the muslims are complety unaware of this.

The 99 Names of God, according to Islamic tradition, are the names of God that God has revealed to man. In the Hadith, the reported words of the Prophet Muhammad, it is said that he who memorizes these would get into paradise.

Many of them are part of Arabic person names, as in Abd ar-Rahman ("server of the Most Compassionate (God)").

The 99 Names of Allah according to the tradition of Islam are:

Ar-Rahman: The Most Compassionate, Most Kind
Ar-Rahim: The Most Merciful
Al-Malik: The Master, The King, The Monarch
Al-Quddus: The Pure, The Holy One
As-Salaam: The Peace, The Tranquility, The Author of Safety
Al-Mu'min: The Faithful, The Trusted, The Giver of Peace
Al-Muhaymin: The Protector, The Vigilant, The Controller
Al-'Aziz: The Almighty, The Powerful
Al-Jabbar: The Oppressor, The All Compelling, Who compensates lacks of others
Al-Mutakabbir: The Haughty, The Majestic, The Lord
Al-Khaliq: The Creator, The Maker
Al-Baari': The Inventor, The Maker
Al-Musawwir: The Fashioner, The Organiser, The Designer
Al-Ghaffar: The Forgiving, The Forgiver
Al-Qahhar: The Almighty, The Dominant
Al-Wahhab: The Donor, The Bestower
Ar-Razzaq: The Provider, The Sustainer
Al-Fattah: The Opener, The Revealer, The Judge
Al-'Alim: The All Knowing, The Omniscient
Al-Qabid: The Contractor, The Restrainer, The Recipient
Al-Basit: The Expander, The Increaser
Al-Khafid: The Abaser, The Humbler, The Pleaser
Ar-Rafi': The Raiser, The Exalter
Al-Mu'iz: The Honourer, The Exalter
Al-Muzil: The Abaser, The Subduer
As-Sami': The All Hearing, The All Knowing
Al-Basir: The All Seeing, The Insightful
Al-Hakam: The Arbitrator, The Judge
Al-'Adl: The Justice, The Equitable
Al-Latif: The Most Gentle, The Gracious, The One Who is Kind, The Subtle
Al-Khabir: The Aware, The Sagacious
Al-Halim: The Gentle, The Most Patient, The Benevolent
Al-'Azim: The Great, The Mighty
Al-Ghafoor: The Forgiving, The Pardoner
Ash-Shakur: The Grateful, The Thankful
Al-'Aliy: The Most High, The Exalted
Al-Kabir: The Greatest, The Biggest
Al-Hafiz: The Guardian, The Preserver
Al-Muqit: The Maintainer, The Nourisher
Al-Hasib: The Noble, The Reckoner
Al-Ja'lil: The Majestic, The Honorable, The Exalted, The Beneficent
Al-Karim: The Most Generous, The Bountiful
Ar-Raqib: The Guardian, The Watcher
Al-Mujib: The Answerer
Al-Wasi': The Enricher, The Omnipresent, The Knowledgeable
Al-Hakim Al-Mutlaq: The Most Wise, The Judicious
Al-Wadud: The Affectionate, The Loving
Al-Majid: The Glorious, The Exalted
Al-Ba'ith: The Resurrector, The Raiser from death, The True
Ash-Shahid: The Witness
Al-Haqq: The Truth, The Just
Al-Wakil: The Guardian, the Trustee
Al-Qawee: The Powerful, The Almighty, The Strong
Al-Matin: The Strong, The Firm
Al-Walee: The Supporter, The Friend, The Defender
Al-Hamid: The Praiseworthy, The Commendable
Al-Muhsi: The Counter
Al-Mubdi': The Beginner, The Creator, The Originator
Al-Mu'eed: The Restorer, The Resurrector
Al-Muhyee: The Bestower, The Life Giver
Al-Mumeet: The Bringer of Death, The Death Giver
Al-Hay'y: The Ever-Living
Al-Qayyum: The Self-Subsistent, The Eternal, The Self-Sustaining
Al-Wajid: The All Perceiving, The Bountiful, The Finder
Al-Majid: The Noble, The Illustrious
Al-Wahid: The One, The Unique
Al-Ahad: The Only, The Unique
As-Samad: The Perfect, The Eternal
Al-Qadir: The Able, The Capable, The Omnipotent
Al-Muqtadir: The Capable, The All Powerful
Al-Muqaddim: The Presenter, The Advancer, The Expediter
Al-Mu'akhkhir: The Fulfiller, The Deferrer
Al-'Awwal: The First
Al-'Akhir: The Last
Az-Zahir: The Apparent, The Exterior, The Manifest
Al-Batin: The Hidden, The Interior, The Veiled
Al-Waali: The Governor, The Ruler, The Master
Al-Muta'ali: The Exalted, The Most High, The One above reproach
Al-Barr: The Benefactor, The Beneficient, The Pious
At-Tawwab: The Acceptor of Repentance, The Forgiver, The Relenting
Al-Muntaqim: The Avenger
Al-'Afuww: The Forgiver, The Pardoner
Ar-Ra'uf: The Merciful, The Ever Indulgent
Malik Al-Mulk: The Ruler of The Kingdom, The King of The Universe
Zul-Jalali wal-Ikram: Lord of Majesty and Generosity
Al-Muqsit: The Just, The Equitable
Aj-Jami': The Collector, The Comprehensive, The Gatherer
Al-Ghanee: The Richest, The All Sufficing, The Self-Sufficient
Al-Mughnee: The Enricher, The Sufficer, The Bestower
Al-Maani': The Supporter
Ad-Daarr: The Distresser, The Afflictor, The Bringer of Adversity
An-Nafi': The Beneficial, The Benefactor
An-Nur: The Light
Al-Hadi': The Guide
Al-Badi': The Wonderful, The Maker, The Incomparable
Al-Baqi: The Enduring, The Everlasting, The Eternal
Al-Warith: The Inheritor, The Heir
Ar-Rashid: The Rightly Guided, The Conscious, The Guide
As-Sabur: The Most Patient, The Enduring
Al-Manheii: The Right One, Kind Eternal Master, Non- Subservient
3,436 posted on 08/08/2004 4:15:35 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: judicial meanz

Me, too. I have Jewish family members living in NYC. I myself am a .50 English/french and .50 Italian hybrid. I feel especially good when I make fun of the french euroweenies...


3,437 posted on 08/08/2004 4:17:11 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: judicial meanz; Donna Lee Nardo
I love Jooooooooooo's too. So much I married one, and added several more smaller Jooooooooooooo's to the family...LOL

Sounds like my family, I suppose I would be one of the smaller ones... That is, if my father still practiced Judaism. I must say, my mother has brought him to Jesus (it's almost like he was born a Christian). :)

3,438 posted on 08/08/2004 4:17:12 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

Your Mom is not Jewish? Then you are not Jewish according to the law. That is nice that your Mom and Dad have a similar faith now.


3,439 posted on 08/08/2004 4:19:33 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

It's certainly possible that Allah is a Moon god, if there really is an "allah." Like I said earlier, I am unconvinced that Islam is a true religion... it all originated from the knowledge of one man. The other terms describe allah, but allah itself is still the true word for "god."


3,440 posted on 08/08/2004 4:20:38 PM PDT by nwctwx
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