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To: missyme
One thing about your N'oachide laws and why that concept would of never worked for human beings is because there was no consequences for their actions, there was no prayers for the gentile world to adhere to there was no celebrations to honor the one true Living GOD of the world.

You are correct. The so-called Noachide Laws, and this manner of acceptance of the "Righteous Gentile" is an attempt to erase history. They were inventions after the First Century. While the Temple stood, there was a wall dividing the inner court and the so-called "court of the Gentile".

The court of the Gentile was twice as big as the inner court, indicating the huge number of Goyim who, as Deuteronomy 4 indicated would happen, were drawn inexplicably to the God of Avraham, Yitschak, and Ya'akov. Solomon's Temple had no such court, nor does the Temple of Ezekiel 44-48 have such a court.

Gentiles who were proselytes to Judaism were NOT relegated to the outer court - because as the Mishna and Talmud indicate, a goy who goes through ritual conversion becomes a Jew, and was to be considered, "a native Israelite". No, instead the outer court was for the so-called "Righteous Gentiles". If the modern rabbis who now promote the so-called "Noachide Laws" as the "Gentile way" had lived when the Second Temple stood, they would have not accomidated the Gentiles - they would have told them that Torah was not for them, and to go away and live by these 7 laws.

There is absolutely no historical record of such a system (Noachide Laws) followed before the 2nd Century CE. In fact. They were invented in response to "sham-Jews" (seen as such, they were Gentiles who claimed they were Israel but who had not gone through ritual coversion - examples Acts 15 and Galatians) - in other words, those who were coming from the sect called Nazerenes, or as the Talmud refers to it, "the heretics". The Talmud certainly has reference to the Noachide Laws - it was compiled in 500 CE. But it is hard pressed to explain, as the Mishna details - what then was the purpose for the court of the Gentiles?
190 posted on 08/03/2004 10:30:52 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft

Great Answer, I was trying to imagine our world just having Judaism and N'oachide laws? WHAT A scarry thought I can't imagine how much more evil people could be than they are now, but with just N'oachide laws it appears that the world might not even have exsisted today....


193 posted on 08/03/2004 10:41:57 AM PDT by missyme
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To: safisoft

Also what was the punishment for Nazarenes? If the JEWS had looked down on Samaritans and Lepors were they just jailed or killed? How was the N-oachide laws preached to gentiles before Jesus's arrival? is this info in the Talmud? It appears all SINNERS who did not obey TORAH were usually killed is that correct? as GOD had no place for them?


197 posted on 08/03/2004 10:58:03 AM PDT by missyme
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