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Also what was the punishment for Nazarenes? If the JEWS had looked down on Samaritans and Lepors were they just jailed or killed? How was the N-oachide laws preached to gentiles before Jesus's arrival? is this info in the Talmud? It appears all SINNERS who did not obey TORAH were usually killed is that correct? as GOD had no place for them?

It appears all SINNERS who did not obey TORAH were usually killed is that correct? as GOD had no place for them?

Provision was made for sinners/foreigners who did not obey the Torah to live peacably with the Children of Israel. As to the ones put to death, that was God's decision of judgment under the terms He maintained with us humans at the time -- He can do that. Even then, as I recall my reading, they had usually attacked the Israelites already, or at least declared/conspired against them.

Also what was the punishment for Nazarenes?
Exclusion from the Temple and synagogue. This happened around 65-68 CE. Most likely after Ya'akov ha Tzeddik ("James the Just") was thrown from the Temple roof and then stoned. The Pharisees sent a delegation to Rome to protest to Nero, which indicates that as Acts 15, they were very much sympathetic to "the Way", and many were followers.

After the desctruction of the Temple, there was increased animosity toward the followers of "the Way" - ironically, the main reason for the final split has nothing to do with Y'shua directly. It had to do with Gentile inclusion. There is now solid evidence of this, and reading that truth back into Galatians, Acts, and Ephesians will revolutionize your view of what is occuring in that time. Acts 21 and 22 give you the fight in definite terms.

Traditional Christianity has seen the contest of the "New Testament" between the "Jews" and the "Christians". The issue is "Law" versus "Grace". Their twisted way of looking at it was this: Jewish religion = LAW. Christian religion = GRACE. This is nonsense. Chanan is at the forefront of Judaism. After all, what could be more gracious than for HaShem to give His people Torah?

The fact is, that the contest within the "New Testament" is the contest over inclusing of Gentiles in the Covenant of Israel. "Christians" beginning in the Second Century have arrogantly demanded not only a place at the Table, but that they REPLACE Israel. Theologically, this is ridiculous. Logically, it is frightening. If God can replace Israel with the "Church" - then who is the say that He can't replace the "Church" with an even BETTER group of people? This kind of twisted thinking has permeated "Christian" dogma for over 1,800 years and complete colors their reading of Scripture. It has given them "permission" to look down their noses at Jews, and has given them pretext for persectuting Jews as well. A book for all "Christians" who think they want to preach to Jews is Christianity is Jewish by Edith Schaeffer - Francis Schaeffer's wife (both of blessed memory).

Most of the sects of Judaism in the First Century held that Gentiles could only be full members if they went through ritual proselytism (shorthand, "circumcision"). Almost ALL the times the "New Testament" uses this word, it is speaking NOT of the command of circumcision, but of the 4-part rabbinic ritual - which included:

- Commitment to abandon all ways but God's (i.e. Torah)
- Pay Temple tax
- Ritual circumcision
- Immersion (Mikveh)

Rabbi Hillel, who died in about 20 CE said that what was most important was the immersion (now called ablusion). Since the ritual was to show a ETHNIC change from goy to Jew, immersion best showed the idea of being "born anew" as a Jew. "Christians" think that Nakkdimon (Nicodemas) in John 3 was blown away by a "new teaching" of Y'shua to be "Born Again" - nope. The understanding of being born anew was not a new concept for Judaism. Instead, Nakkdimon is blown away because he was ALREADY a Jew, he did not need a immersion or conversion to Judaism. To be born from above is more than a ritual.