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To: missyme

I remember from previous postings that you are too young to have teen-aged children. Perhaps you have brothers or sisters.

How would you -- a committed Christian -- feel if your brother or sister had been hanging out at a coffeehouse with people who lured them in, then slowly induced them to accept Hinduism, or Buddhism, or some other non-Christian faith?


12 posted on 08/02/2004 5:57:47 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

I would be upset if any body I knew gave up the one true living GOD of the Universe, The GOD of Abraham the GOD of the JEWS the GENTILES to embrace idolatry....


15 posted on 08/02/2004 6:01:38 PM PDT by missyme
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To: Piranha

I'm thinking a 15 year old's parent(s) ought to know what kind of "coffee houses" he's hanging out in, and if it involves activities or beliefs the parent(s) disapprove of, then make sure the kid doesn't go there. I think these messianic Jewish missionaries are nutty -- much like the "Jews for Jesus" outfit that descends on the NYC subways a couple of times a year. But calling them "enemies" is excessive. Not everyone who wants to convert you to their belief system is an "enemy" -- most are just enthusiastic about their beliefs, and genuinely believe you will be too, if you just learn about them. One can take a pass on their proselytizing efforts without defining them as "enemies".


21 posted on 08/02/2004 6:11:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Piranha

Your point is moot, Jesus is the Gospel, the truth and it has to be shared or it isn't christianity.


28 posted on 08/02/2004 6:21:56 PM PDT by Kackikat (,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
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To: Piranha

"With open mike nights on Wednesdays and Punk concerts on Thursdays, including free coffee, chai tea and snacks, the non-smoking, alcohol-free Jamm provides a clean and tempting atmosphere for Jerusalem youth."

In one of the organization's pamphlets, The Jamm describes itself as "the first and only Israeli Messianic Youth ministry center of its kind in Israel," the main goal of which is "to serve as a safe place for young people to find out about the mercies of the true and living God."

"They gave me workbooks and the New Testament and said that Jesus gave his life for us and we need to give our lives to Him."

That doesn't sound like they lured him in. Sounds like they had a coffee-house that people knew was "messianic" (from the phamplet). Not sure if free tea and coffee is considered "luring".

Typical Christian outreach is to get to know people based on similar interests, etc. I was at a meeting on Evangilism and this pastor said they have had great success with motorcyles. They had a big motorcyle show in the church lot on a Saturday, and a group asked if they could show up in their "leathers" for Sunday service, and then on to a cruise afterwards. The pastor said sure. Dozens showed up that day, and now 100's show up each Sunday.

It all started when the Pastor spoke to a husband of one of his parishinors. The husband didn't like churches 'cuz some church awhile back kicked him out of the worship service because he had on his motorcyle leathers.


29 posted on 08/02/2004 6:22:05 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: Piranha

Frank Zappa once said: You can't convince someone of anything that they didn't already believe. What would I do if someone tried to "trick" my child into becoming a Hindu? Nothing. I will teach my children what I believe. If they agree, great. But they have to and will live their own lives, regardless of how I feel about it. I thought I was a liberal for 25 years, and bought into it ALL. When I did my own investigation and study into what the left REALLY is, I rejected it. Of course I would be very disappointed if my child rejected my faith, but I would never hate my child, or have him arrested for believing something I don't. There seems to be an absolute hatred among Jews toward Christians, that I just don't see vice versa. I have Jewish relatives even though my family is Catholic. They are completely and totally accepted, loved members of the family, nothing less.


34 posted on 08/02/2004 6:30:00 PM PDT by boop
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To: Piranha
feel if your brother or sister had been hanging out at a coffeehouse with people who lured them in, then slowly induced them

Wow ...is that what happend?.....

43 posted on 08/02/2004 6:43:35 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Piranha

Christian parents wouldn't appreciate missionaries trying to convert their kids, but they wouldn't outlaw it or disown their kids for following another religion.


64 posted on 08/02/2004 7:10:36 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: Piranha; anotherview; Bella_Bru

http://www.chaim.org/nation.htm

If your interested this is some info I am sharing with you..


507 posted on 08/04/2004 3:24:05 PM PDT by missyme
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