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To: My2Cents
I can't see how anyone could possible argue against your pure logic.

The people on FreeRepublic who defend Evolution seem to principally argue from an Ad Hominen stance. Get used to it. Sigh.

9 posted on 08/02/2004 4:27:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Excuse me, but a creationist started the ad hominems with this article. The first few paragraphs call those who won't subscribe to creationism liars, ideologues, militant Atheists, haters of religion and crusaders.


36 posted on 08/02/2004 5:17:01 PM PDT by sumocide
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To: ClearCase_guy
The people on FreeRepublic who defend Evolution seem to principally argue from an Ad Hominen stance. Get used to it. Sigh.

The attacks can indeed be biting; can't say I really blame them for the intensity of their defensiveness. I would offer the following, however.

A Darwinist, like a Creationist, or Buddaist, or Hindu, or Red Chinese Communist Party Politboro member ... they all have in common a hard-wired need for 'God' (their hot denials notwithstanding). A Darwinist is especially vocifierous b/c of the limits of their experience.

But I have met several highly trained scientists who are also ardent Christians (and I haven't met a single Christian who utterly rejects outright ALL science) ... and for these Christians, an extra dimension of experience is theirs from which they draw knowledge ... and security. Not so for a Darwinist who KNOWS that to acknowledge a creator is to essentially kill an identity within himself. And thus, out of all faiths, fundamentalist Christianity is the greatest perceived threat to their survival. To them, it really is all about survival, spiritual survival.

Why submit to a 'Jealous God' who seems to endlessly limit the whims of appetite, when their experience base reveals that pleasure is obtained through pursuing the pulses of appetite (primarily the hunger for the lime light in scientific conferences/journals) - and the imitation spiritual experiences embedded therein?

If imitation is the best there is, by gum, its the REAL DEAL ... so how DARE Christians attempt to point the way to a more 'authentic' way of life?

That all said, I wouldn't 'get used to it'. The very fact so many of them bother to attempt to engage so many of us, even on so negative terms, is a very good sign. We're to heed them as they arise...and witness to the extent we can. Ridicule is a far better indicator of what we're about than indifference.

263 posted on 08/03/2004 2:20:20 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm not afraid of evolution at all, or perhaps I should say Darwinism. If the theory -not a dismissive word, by the way -holds true, then we've much cause for wonder! But I've yet to see a transitional species, in the fossil record, or among the living. Science is not my line, but I come to the table with no hidden agenda.
505 posted on 08/04/2004 6:36:03 PM PDT by ashtanga
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To: ClearCase_guy
The people on FreeRepublic who defend Evolution seem to principally argue from an Ad Hominen stance. Get used to it. Sigh.

Indeed, Mr. Balrog666 appears to have precisely embodied several of the phenomena described in the article in connection with ideological advocates of Darwin's idea.

In other words, he's a prime example of what the author was talking about.

649 posted on 08/06/2004 6:58:45 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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