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To: Havoc
Ah, I wondered how long it would take you to decide you couldn't overcome me in debate and would have to go after me personally. ROFL.

Interesting. How about you pick yourself up off the floor and stop laughing for a minute and try to think really hard about just what "debate" you are engaged in. To me, it boils down to this:
Havoc: "There are no transitionals."
Science: "define transitional."
Havoc: "A bat with half a wing. A human with gliding membranes, etc."
Science: "You will never find such things, as this isn't what is predicted or shown in the fossil record. Here are some real transitionals."
Havoc: "They aren't transitionals because I say so. Where are the current transitionals?"
science: "Here are some current examples."
Havoc: "I don't see a fish with one leg."
Science: At this point, "science" pretty much throws up it's arms because it realizes it's "arguing" with a numbnut who doesn't grasp 6th grade conceptions of niches, fitness, and other basic tenets of biology.
Havoc: Still doesn't get it, and never will.
345 posted on 08/04/2004 5:22:25 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke; VadeRetro; Junior
Havoc writes:

For a theory that is yet unproven to produce laws based on assumption which you then inject here as a matter of dispute is begging the question. Where did you learn logic - or did you ever? Because what you just did is beg your argument to support your argument and that violates the first law of logic.

As I see the word "theory" used quite a bit by Havoc, some reference material on theories, opinions, etc.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1037248/posts?page=70#70

where Havoc writes:

"Note: a theory is still an opinion."

to which a response comes:

"Incorrect. A theory is "An entire body of knowledge associated with a particular area of study, including the basic postulates, predictions based on these postulates, observations and experimental data, and their interpretation. [Cal Poly Physics Colloquium, 9/23/99]. Theories are well described, repeatedly observed, and verified statements. When they have repeatedly confirmed over a long period of time, the theory for all practical purposes is used as true or fact, (sometime referred to as superb theory such as quantum mechanics).

Theory does not imply uncertainty or opinion - not in science."

350 posted on 08/04/2004 5:48:03 AM PDT by Fury
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To: whattajoke

See above. You guys sit and point to snakes with supposed hips and leg bones dangling off them. We read the bloody books and see where you guys say that these changes take millions of years because you can't figure out how to explain it in light of the absence of any proof for your theory otherwise. And there is no proof. That is the whole point. You're a bunch of bs con artists.


356 posted on 08/04/2004 6:31:01 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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