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To: Shryke
Small, exposed pieces of bones attached to a hip.

That have no use, or you just don't know what use they serve? And is it an actual hip and a leg, or is it just something you point to and say it looks similar.. Really. Tell us, what do the addenoids do (sp?). Cause my brother had his removed though specialists at IU med center admitted they're clueless as to what purposes they might serve. Right. The pretense is that you know; but, the reality is that you don't. Thank you for playing. Next.

232 posted on 08/03/2004 1:23:00 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc
That have no use, or you just don't know what use they serve? And is it an actual hip and a leg, or is it just something you point to and say it looks similar

It's well settled among biologists that these are actual hips and legs, rather than something else.

If you have another idea what they might be, please speak up.

If not: Thank you for playing. Next.

237 posted on 08/03/2004 1:31:05 PM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Havoc
And is it an actual hip and a leg, or is it just something you point to and say it looks similar.. Really

You've repeated exactly what I've accused you of: ignoring the obvious and simply stating "You don't understand".

Thank you for playing. Next.

Yes, yes. If I apply your logic to our debate, I must have lost. Like the U.S. lost WW2.

241 posted on 08/03/2004 1:35:04 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Havoc
Tell us, what do the addenoids do (sp?).

Well, once I figured your spelling was wrong, it only took a minute using Yahoo to discover the following:

What function do they serve?   Aren't they important?  The tonsils and the adenoids are mostly composed of lymphoid tissue, which is found thoughout the gastointestinal tract and on the base of the tongue.  Lymphoid tissue is composed of lymphocytes...which are mostly involved in antibody production.  Since we generally consider antibody production to be a good thing, many studies have been performed to try to clarify the importance of the tonsils.  To date, there seems to be no adverse effect on the immune status or health of patients who have had them removed.  Any noticable effect has generally been positive. It appears that the tonsils and adenoids were not "designed" to effectively handle the multitude of viral infections that occur in children in an urban population.  Rather, the immune system, including the tonsils and adenoids, developed during a era where the child was rarely exposed to a large number of other people and the germs they carried.  It may also be that these organs are relatively more important in dealing with certain types of infections, such as worms or other parasites, that are relatively uncommon in today's society.  It is clear that in many cases, the tonsils and/or the adenoids become "dysfunctional" and are more of a liability than an asset.

Honestly,  if creationists would simply do a little snooping around the net outside the standard creationist sites, they could discover lots of answers to the silly little questions they continually pose on these threads.

Remember, Google is your friend.

242 posted on 08/03/2004 1:35:23 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Havoc
And is it an actual hip and a leg, or is it just something you point to and say it looks similar.

The vestigial legs in whales are located in the same region as the legs in other mammals. They have the same number of bones and in the same locations as other mammals. Fossil cetaceans have more developed (but still vestigial) legs in the same region. These legs become more developed the farther back in the fossil record you go.

With such evidence, wouldn't paleontologists and biologists be able to draw the conclusion the structures in modern whales are the remnants of legs and hips? Or, are they not permitted to connect the dots?

245 posted on 08/03/2004 1:41:29 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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