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Captured Qaeda Figure Led Way to Information Behind Warning
New York Times ^ | 08/02/04 | DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID ROHDE

Posted on 08/01/2004 7:50:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

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To: ganeshpuri89

Good article there.


81 posted on 08/02/2004 7:45:09 AM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline!)
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To: Celtic Conservative; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; B4Ranch; Smartass; Geist Krieger
We are squeezing Osama's hemorrhoids ever so tightly at this point.

Quite possibly, the captured Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan was a software engineer certified by Microsoft and his coding was probably some utility that amplified Windows 128 bit encryption algorithms. If Microsoft could encrypt it with their code, they can decrypt it, even though it may take a little more time.

This is baaaaad news for Islamic cyber terrorists everywhere (Detroit, Seattle, Redmond, Dallas, NYC, Portland, etc., etc.)

~ ~ ~ ~

What they're saying about "Onward Muslim Soldiers" - An expose of militant Islam.

The FREEPERS Guide To Islamic Terror Websites - CYBERTERRORISM (And It's Sponsors)

We Must NEVER Forget!

It’s O.K. Akhmed – Christians Are Infidels, and Infidels Are Just Dogs
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82 posted on 08/02/2004 7:45:43 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan--GUILTY!


83 posted on 08/02/2004 7:52:20 AM PDT by longfellow
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To: conservative in nyc; Admin Moderator

Isn't the NYT on the excerpt list?


84 posted on 08/02/2004 7:53:13 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: conservative in nyc
Why let the bad guys know how we know?

Good question. Since Ridge is being very specific in disclosing all of this, I can think of a few. One, we are not playing Coventry. We are not going to let our people die. So in this society, the public is going to know what precautions are being taken. Two, there is no reporting of a date. The information is not time specific, so my guess is, we're not going to "catch 'em" red-handed, either in a plotting or perpetration phase. We have all they players we're going to get on this one -- for now. Three, yes the public disclosure allows the enemy to see what we know. On the plus side this guy is a remarkably good catch and there's probably a lot of intelligence coups we don't know about yet.

85 posted on 08/02/2004 7:56:51 AM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline!)
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To: thoughtomator

RE post 64, it will work, but only me and you think it should be done.


86 posted on 08/02/2004 7:57:26 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: thoughtomator

RE post 64, it will work, but only me and you think it should be done.


87 posted on 08/02/2004 7:57:27 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: BagCamAddict
I'm actually trying to figure out when/why the terrorism spiked and has continued to grow since 1979. Terrorists always try to blame it on "the Israel thing", but that happened long before 1979, so what was the significance of 1979... anyone know?

Wasn't OBL exiled from S.A. in 1979?

So began the destabilization of S.A. and the extortion of money from any disaffected back-hump royals. Money was sent to "charities" with terrorist ties.

The front-line royals turned their heads to the flow of money as did everyone else around the world including -- us.

Thus the growth and "spike" of al Qaeda terrorism.

88 posted on 08/02/2004 8:14:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Happy2BMe
Are WE GOOD or what!? - ping.

Yay!

Good to be getting cooperation around the world on stuff like this.

Arsehole 'RATS are saying the new heightened alert is politics on the part of
the Bush Administration. I didn't catch the name of the jerk on FOX that
referred to the Bush Administration having a 'credibility' problem. I think that
was the term he used. What an arse. That is something his boy clintoon would
do. Not Bush.


89 posted on 08/02/2004 8:23:25 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: jeffers
If the text is not sent in clear text, the packets then become prime targets for interception by virtue of not corresponding to any known language patterns.

Even Phil Zimmerman (creator of PGP) has noted that PGP encrypted messages become more targetable for investigation, simply because ciphertext "stands out" from the stream of plaintext traveling across the Internet on mail ports. This wouldn't be a problem if everyone used PGP, ciphertext would be ubiquitous.

In addition, there are some (perhaps) tinfoil theories amongst the cipherfolks that all PGP keys have been cracked, and of course its demonstrably true that parallel computers have cracked DES and perhaps even 3DES.

90 posted on 08/02/2004 8:37:01 AM PDT by angkor
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To: prairiebreeze
Let me clarify my question. I am not asking why information on specific targets was released. I fully understand that.

I am asking why the NYT thinks publishing specific info on how the threat informaton was obtained helps matters. Once the bad guys know how we are tracking them, they will change their methods.

This just reminds me of when some RAT Senator leaked that we were listening to Osama's cell phone.
91 posted on 08/02/2004 9:00:35 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: BagCamAddict
In a nutshell?

It was the fall of the Shah of Iran. It showed America as a weakling who wouldn't lift a hand to help an ally so the terrorists knew they could act with impunity.

Then there was the hostage crisis. It was handled so sloppily that the terrorists KNEW the US couldn't or wouldn't act.

If it comes right down to it though we could blame SKerry or even Kennedy. Kennedy because he got us into a war and then wouldn't commit enough force to win. He also let down the Cuban patriots at the Bay of Pigs. He made our nation into an ineffectual enemy. Castro is still there.

Skerry because he came home from the war and aided and abetted and even led the anti-war movement and further politically paralyzed the US from using the force it needed to win. The House and the Senate were run by Dimocrats for like 40 years.

So to sum it up. It is Dimocrats showing weakness at the threat of a bully that has caused the terrorism we have today and the only way to stop it is to squash them like bugs wherever we find them and the same to those who aid and abet them.

The reason we can and do also blame Clinton is because he made it harder to track the terrorists and he did little or nothing to stop them and they grew stronger and braver in the face of ineffectual or non-exestant reprisals.

92 posted on 08/02/2004 9:04:41 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Dr Snide

Yes, those leaders who worked directly with the geek knew he was arrested, but individual cells far from the center would not. Also, the issue is, why publicize this? If everyone in the terrorist network knew he was arrested, there would be no issue as to publicizing this, right?


93 posted on 08/02/2004 9:17:16 AM PDT by Republican in CA
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To: conservative in nyc; Happy2BMe; LibertyAndJusticeForAll; A. Pole; WilliamofCarmichael; Pokey78; ...
I posted information related to this specific topic back in June here on Freerepublic.

The information reported by the NYT is severely flawed and not accurate. It also fails to highlight exactly what is being planned.

There is a high level team of three main individuals who are responsible for this specific project that is financed by Al Qaeda via JI. They are located in Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia. These individuals are the brains of the operation.

The main item on the agenda at this time is being able to use an EMP to destroy Wall Street and banks. And small devices have already been tested to gauge the effects and radius.

There are still a few small teams who are working on virus, worms, communications etc. but they are not the focus at this moment and they have no contacts above their tier group. They simply don't know anything.

"Secure communications" is not even a high priority at this time. What is and has been being used more is couriers and various other methods even including steganography. The operation is so decentralized though that busting Khan is not really going to amount to anything.

One month ago, I attempted to give specific information regarding this project to the US Government and it was basically shrugged off. I do however find it a bit ironic however that something like this is coming out. The concern of the government seemed to be "why" I wanted to give information rather than the content of what I had to give. The process of being "vetted" out was almost comical if would not have been so pathetic and sad ~ and as such I soon realized that it for the most part an exersize in futility on my part. Instead of receiving a "thanks" my motives were questioned and challenged.

The focus is not where it needs to be and that is really frightening. American companies and call centers etc. in India are and have been the target now for the last few years. It is a problem that no one seems to want to address. Al Qaeda already knows that individuals from Pakistan are going to be looked at closely and so the intense recruitment of Indians to do the work for them.

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Previous thread with regards to "computer experts"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1161484/posts

India is fast becoming the major hot spot - no more Arabs being sent to the USA to learn flight simulators. Now they are becoming a diverse collection of Indian Muslims and North African (French citizens) being actively recruited and being sent to the USA under such programs via Southeast Asia. Each one armed with "degrees", letters of recommendation from companies in Malaysia, Singapore, India and California etc. as "computer experts" - "programmers" etc.

Im gathering more information - on this and will post it here on Freerepublic.

94 posted on 08/02/2004 9:30:55 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Dr Snide

This could also be disinformation to cover an asset which is still in place.


95 posted on 08/02/2004 9:33:00 AM PDT by Republican in CA
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To: expatguy

Interesting information. Any chance you have a ping list?


96 posted on 08/02/2004 9:49:18 AM PDT by Betis70
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To: angkor

A friend who poured the concrete, set the steel for the towers, hung the dishes and then tuned the datastream for Australia's government WAN, had run out of challenges in the downunder and wanted to take a shot at a job here in the States.

On her arrival she brought her lappy up on my LAN and noted her irritation with the US government's policy restricting the export of encryption algorithms that used keys exceeding 56 bits.

Her solution had been to code her own, using a 1024 bit key. This was circa 1997.

I believe that some of the systems you refer to are probably capable of cracking any encryption now in use, but whether or not the masters of these machines have prioritized the actual processing cycles necessary to accomplish this task for every scheme in common use is doubtful.

If the enemy has coded their own, and I have no reason to doubt that they have, it becomes a contest between the enemy's ability to distribute new keys and our dedication towards cracking them.

(I know you are aware of this, but for others who may be reading, please understand that the will is there to accomplish these tasks, and that the hardware capability is probably there too, but there are only so many processor cycles in the day, and a machine tasked full time towards cracking a key cannot be used to locate and harvest new intercepts. It is a question of prioritization.)


97 posted on 08/02/2004 11:37:06 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: conservative in nyc

meanwhile, from today's NRO The Corner section:

GETTING WARMER? [KJL]
FNC is reporting that a courier has been intercepted with a message from Zarkawi en route to Osama.
Posted at 02:36 PM


98 posted on 08/02/2004 12:23:08 PM PDT by WarrenC
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To: Betis70

Sorry I dont have a ping list, nor do I often post threads. I do reply to many that I might be able to comment on though.


99 posted on 08/05/2004 7:25:04 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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