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An American in Sparta
United Press International ^ | 8/1/2004 | Pamela Hess

Posted on 08/01/2004 5:56:36 PM PDT by Ben Chad

By Pamela Hess Pentagon correspondent Published 8/1/2004 5:06 PM

RAMADI, Iraq, Aug. 1 (UPI) -- Living on a Marine base on the edge of restive Ramadi is a shock to a civilian's senses. It's endlessly dusty and loud; the latrines smell; it's beastly hot. There is no color other than brown, and everyone is armed.

But mostly you marvel at how they go about their days: run with M-16s flapping against their backs for miles at high noon when it's topping 115 degrees just for the exercise; how they wear long sleeves, pants, suede desert boots, 30 pounds of armor and man a gun on top of a Humvee, faces encrusted with dust; how they work at least 12 hours a day, every day, with no days off, under a constant threat of mortars and rockets.

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(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; marines; ramadi; rightstuff; usmc
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"The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event."

"That said, there are some a--holes in the world that just need to be shot. But you go on and find your next victim or he's gonna kill you or your buddy. It's kill or be killed."

Gen. Mattis USMC

1 posted on 08/01/2004 5:56:39 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Ben Chad; Ragtime Cowgirl

Excellent article. Definitely worth clicking on the link.


2 posted on 08/01/2004 6:21:05 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Ben Chad

Excellent! It is about time these reporters start to report from our side of the front lines instead of taking pictures from BEHIND the islamic jihadists


3 posted on 08/01/2004 6:40:08 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: conservative in nyc; Ben Chad; Poohbah; Coop; river rat; tet68; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; ...
Definitely worth clicking on the link.

Seconded. And for any who haven't seen it, an outstanding article here.

4 posted on 08/01/2004 6:50:22 PM PDT by dighton
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To: conservative in nyc
The joy of being young. What could be more of an "extreme sport" than to go out and get shot at and to be able to return fire with deadly intent. Riding a skateboard just can't equal that thrill.

As Genghis Khan said, "Man's greatest joy is to slay his enemy, plunder his riches, ride his steeds, see the tears of his loved ones and embrace his women." Even though they are Americans, they are also human. This will forever remain true.

5 posted on 08/01/2004 6:57:02 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

If you FORGOT your < sarcasm > tag, I would forgive that attack on the patriotism, honor and integrity of our nation's finest.

If there was no < sarcasm > you may stay in your state of origin according to your home page - and may the sea take you slowly when the quakes slide you under the murky waters.


"If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
-- Sammuel Adams


6 posted on 08/01/2004 7:08:12 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock
I didn't forget the sarcasm tag and it wasn't an attack on Patriotism, Honor, etc. Don't know where you got that idea.

As for California, yeah I hope it does slide into the sea.

7 posted on 08/01/2004 7:17:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: dighton

Thanks for the link. Somehow I missed that one.


8 posted on 08/01/2004 7:18:44 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Ben Chad

Great read. Thanks for the link!


9 posted on 08/01/2004 7:30:33 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: dighton; conservative in nyc; Ben Chad; Poohbah; Coop; river rat; tet68; general_re; BlueLancer

Excellent article. It's no accident that Pamela Hess works for UPI which is owned by the people who own the Washington Times.


10 posted on 08/01/2004 7:35:35 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Ben Chad; conservative in nyc; RaceBannon; TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; ...
Great post. Thank you!
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Mattis commands a powerful loyalty and respect from his troops.

"He leads from the front," one Marine noted in the cool and noisy morale, welfare and recreation tent at Camp Blue Diamond.

When Mattis' "jump platoon" goes out in a convoy -- it is not uncommon for the general to have his head out the turret, assuming the same risk as the gunners.

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11 posted on 08/01/2004 7:46:42 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (“There is no doubt in my mind that we did the right thing.”- Chaplain Bratton (ret), back from Iraq)
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"Marines run toward gun fire, not away from it,"

:)

Kinda makes ya proud, don't it?

12 posted on 08/01/2004 8:06:42 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Great article!


13 posted on 08/01/2004 8:25:42 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Ben Chad

Bump for later read.


14 posted on 08/01/2004 8:39:38 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


15 posted on 08/01/2004 8:42:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ben Chad

bttt


16 posted on 08/01/2004 8:47:46 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: Ben Chad

What a commander. Those young men and women are safe with him!


17 posted on 08/01/2004 9:05:38 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999

Amen..May God be with them.


18 posted on 08/01/2004 10:48:11 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: steplock; glorgau
I agree with glorgau-- you misread him. Life itself is conflict. You can pretend otherwise but at bedrock Genghis Khan had it more right than wrong, and that doesn't mean that Man is inherently cruel.

He derides the experience in Vietnam when the newest guy - FNG, in profane military parlance -- - was sent out his first night to stand point to see if he'd get shot.

I think this is more apocraphyl Oliver Stone b*llsh*t. I don't think it was standard operating procedure.

19 posted on 08/01/2004 10:59:23 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: thegreatbeast
"I don't think it was standard operating procedure."

Actually, I'm sure some units pulled about every bone head idea possible...

However -- the THOUGHTFUL and Survivor all realized that the man on point was the "early warning" canary. You wanted the Marines with "extra senses" and a LOT of experience walking point... To SEE what was there, to SMELL what was there, and to HEAR what was out there...with the ability of moving forward without being Seen, Heard or Smelled.

The point man MUST see the "signs" and determine how to get to where the team must go....and not be sucked into booby traps, tiger pits or ambush...

Putting the NFG on point, immediately - is a self destructive practice..

Semper Fi

20 posted on 08/01/2004 11:34:11 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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