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Notice these two sentences that turn this otherwise legitimate article into the usual journalistic bullsh*t of the New York Times. Applebome writes, "But it's far less common for the children and grandchildren of the members here to serve than it was for them. Like the delegates at both conventions, it's common for people to honor the military, with the assumption that someone else or someone else's children will be out fighting."

Helloooo, you bigoted moron. Less people are serving because we are not now, and have not for two generations, fought a war in which 4 million Americans are in arms on uniform. THAT -- history, you shm*ck -- is why it is less common for the children and grandchildren to be serving.

So it doesn't have a rat's *ss to do with anyone's "assumption that someone else" will be fighting. And as for the fairness of who is serving and who is not, we now have a volunteer army -- so no one is there who does not choose to be. I spit on the New York Times.

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Well you had a stronger reaction to those sentences than I did. I think I see your point. Although in all honesty it seems reasonable for the author to point out that military service is much less common now than it used to be, and far fewer Americans (even veterans) know someone who is serving now.

Helloooo, you bigoted moron. Less people are serving because we are not now, and have not for two generations, fought a war in which 4 million Americans are in arms on uniform.

I think that you might want to make that closer to 16 million - during WWII. Today, we have less than 10% of that number in uniform.

All I can add is that not one Vietnam Vet that I know supports Kerry. Noone can imagine the scorn Kerry brought down on us. The feeling of betrayal was so deep, it is unimagineable if you weren't in our shoes. I will never forget it. We knew he was lying, but oh so many believed him and his band of liars.

What I resent so much is that Kerry is reopening decades old wounds for millions of us.

Nam Vet