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Kerry Talks Openly About Faith and Guns
My Way ^ | 8/01/04 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 08/01/2004 2:34:26 PM PDT by kattracks

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) - John Kerry is talking more openly about his personal connection to God and guns as he kicks off the general election campaign asking for support from conservative-leaning independent voters.

As his post-convention bus tour rolls through blue collar and Republican-leaning districts, Kerry has repeatedly described how he began a lifetime of hunting and fishing as a young boy. And lately he's been speaking in more detail about a faith that he and running mate John Edwards share in God.

"We're running to be lay leaders, but there isn't any way that you're not affected by your fundamental values, the faith that brings you to the table," Kerry said Sunday to worshippers at Greater Grace Temple in the heart of the presidential campaign battleground in Ohio.

With his political enemies trying to portray Kerry as an aloof Boston Brahmin, Kerry's campaign is putting a bigger focus on common values that he shares with average Americans - fishing and hunting, family and faith.

"I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday," Kerry said as he accepted the Democratic presidential nomination Thursday.

Kerry didn't mention his interest in hunting in that speech, but he has been describing it on his post-convention bus tour through more conservative areas. In Greensburg, Pa., on Saturday, Kerry pointed out a small group of men wearing bright orange shirts that said "Sportsmen 4 Kerry."

"I've been a fisherman since I was about three years old, four years old," Kerry said. "Flung my first line out with my dad. I've been a hunter since I was about 12 years old, and I went through the whole progression, you know, BB gun to .22s to .30-30, you name it."

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat, said the gun vote could make the difference for Kerry in Pennsylvania.

"The fact that he is a hunter and handles guns so well, I think, is also very, very helpful," Rendell said as he accompanied Kerry on stops in three Pennsylvania counties that chose George Bush in 2000. "I'm cautiously optimistic. I think we should wind up winning by about 4 or 5 points."

Kerry will face opposition from the 4-million-strong National Rifle Association. A quarter of NRA members live in West Virginia, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Missouri and Pennsylvania, all potential swing states.

The NRA says Kerry usually votes against gun rights in the Senate. Kerry supports extending the ban on assault-type weapons and requiring background checks at gun shows. He opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits.

Kerry touts his love of fishing and hunting amid his call for environmental conservation, a position more popular with his Democratic base.

"I understand something about hunting and fishing," Kerry said in Wheeling, W. Va., Saturday "In the United States of America today in 28 of our states, ... you're not allowed to eat the fish if you're lucky enough to catch them in the waters of those states because of the level of mercury, the level of toxics and pollution. We have an obligation ... if we want to hunt and we want to fish to make sure it's there not just for us but for future generations."

Kerry's talk of God also could help him shore up part of his base, especially as he spends his Sundays worshipping at largely black churches. Sunday, Kerry told the mostly black congregation at the non-denominational Greater Grace Temple that he and Edwards, who lost his son in a car accident, survived personal tragedy through faith in God.

"I was at war, lost some of my best friends, those I grew up with and those I fought with," Kerry said. "And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on? We all question. And we learn that even though suffering, through loss, we get in touch with power, with the being, with the almighty."

Even among the scientists and technicians at Florida's Kennedy Space Center, Kerry paid tribute Monday to "the higher power.""More physicists and more and more scientists, the more they learn in some ways the less they know about some things and the more they believe in that power," Kerry said.

Kerry tries to distinguish himself from President Bush on religion. On CBS'"Face the Nation" program broadcast Sunday, Kerry said Bush occasionally has crossed a line between church and state, although he said he doesn't know if it's intentional or inadvertent.

"I'm Christian, I'm Catholic, it's important to me," Kerry said. "It has served me through my whole life. But as I said in my (convention) speech, I'm not going to say God is on my side and I'm not going to go out and divide people. I want to pray that we are on God's side."



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; gunvote; issues; kerry; kerryandgod; nra; religiousvote
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To: kattracks

Does anyone have an email address for this Nedra Pickler gal? I looked all over their web site and didn't see one. There's just a few things I'd like to bring to her attention--LOL!


21 posted on 08/01/2004 3:04:05 PM PDT by basil (CantheBan.com)
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To: kattracks

I seriously hope no undecideds fall for this pant load. Oh I said "pantload"! he he he Sandy Berger he he he stealing classified documents... rats! Rats are WRONG!


22 posted on 08/01/2004 3:04:34 PM PDT by Libertina (Photoshop is our friend - just ask John Bunny-Suit Kerry ;))
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To: Euro-American Scum
Just because he used a gun to finish off a wounded gook doesn't make him a gunner.

Kerry's the de-facto leader of the party that has been trying to ban guns for as long as I can remember. That's all I need to know.

23 posted on 08/01/2004 3:08:17 PM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: pabianice

This article really has to be savored line by line. It's, it's absolutely breathtaking; the chutzpah the man has to be feeding out this line of BS. "Onward christian soldiers?" "King of the wild frontier?" The vote he hurried home to cast against gun manufacturers liability exemption was one of the very few he has cast this year. His re-discovery of his Catholic piousness is right up there with the footage of Saddam ostentatiously praying on the eve of the Gulf War or Stalin interrupting his suppression of the Orthodox Church to call on mother russia during WWII.


24 posted on 08/01/2004 3:08:49 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: kattracks
Where's the photo with his finger on the trigger with a group of people standing around at the skeet shoot??????

If he's so pro gun then why does he have a 20 year record of GUN CONTROL votes? Why do the NRA/GOA give him an F and handgun control, inc gives him an A?????????????

25 posted on 08/01/2004 3:18:30 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Euro-American Scum

John FUBAR Kerry (aka Kaptain Ketchup) is a damned liar.


26 posted on 08/01/2004 3:18:30 PM PDT by punster
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To: kattracks
"I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday," Kerry said

Boy, he can really work that word into just about anywhere.

I guess one day he was born, and the very day after that he was shipped off to Vietnam.

27 posted on 08/01/2004 3:21:00 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: kattracks

John Kerry is an apostate Catholic, an apostate Veteran and a never was supporter of the second amendment.


28 posted on 08/01/2004 3:25:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: kattracks
"I'm Christian, I'm Catholic, it's important to me,"

He's only Catholic by his own definition, not the Church's.

29 posted on 08/01/2004 3:28:35 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: kattracks

I'm wondering if we can pull up any of Kerry's speeches from when he ran for Senator to see if he makes references to his faith?

I am fairly certain it was not mentioned during the primaries.


30 posted on 08/01/2004 3:29:43 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: basil

npickler@ap.org


31 posted on 08/01/2004 3:34:52 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: kattracks
"I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday,"

Uh, what Faith would that be, Mr. Kerry? The Faith that causes you to support Homosexual marriages or, perhaps it's the Faith that causes you to support abortion? Then there are the lies you tell, do they come from your Faith? You must be a member of the church of Satan, because you are following his ways, and NOT God's! Kerry is full of lies. The truth is NOT in him!

32 posted on 08/01/2004 3:38:38 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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To: kattracks
"I'm Christian, I'm Catholic, it's important to me," Kerry said.

No you aren't and it isn't John boy.

33 posted on 08/01/2004 3:41:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: kattracks

Where were his values to live by when he was shooting down unarmed women and Children in iet Nam. Not my words HIS. He is the one who said he did this.


34 posted on 08/01/2004 3:41:58 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: jwalsh07; sinkspur
John Kerry is an apostate Catholic

Apparently about 55% of those with the Catholic label are in that category. It implies that a majority of Catholics are "apostate." I for one don't want to go there, or use that term. An individual life is a complex journey. In any event, a majority of Catholics seem entranced with Kerry. Folks buy things by the label it seems. Bush needs those fundamentalist Protestants to close the gap. This election has certain shades of Nixon versus JFK lite.

35 posted on 08/01/2004 3:46:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: kattracks
This is unbelievable...Rove better have something up his sleeve to refute these lies!
36 posted on 08/01/2004 3:50:14 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: kattracks
You will know Kerry/Edwards are in real trouble when Edwards starts saying the reason he is running is because his dead son wanted him to. So far they have not pulled thuis card out. I hope they don't. But if they do you know they have big problems.
37 posted on 08/01/2004 3:51:53 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: kattracks

What on earth does the 2nd amendment have to do with hunting?


38 posted on 08/01/2004 3:54:21 PM PDT by Guillermo (Nobody ever sells a good horse)
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To: lowbridge

Yeah, like when he was in Louisiana..."those marshes remind me of Vietnam."


39 posted on 08/01/2004 3:56:56 PM PDT by Guillermo (Nobody ever sells a good horse)
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To: Euro-American Scum


No, no one believes this crap. They know he is lying through his teeth trying to get elected in "fly over country." What rubes he thinks the rest of us are! If he believed any of this, do you think he'd have been elected again and again in MASSACHUSETTS? Only the dumbest NEA member would fall for this insulting garbage.


40 posted on 08/01/2004 4:05:52 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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