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Kerry Talks Openly About Faith and Guns
My Way ^ | 8/01/04 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 08/01/2004 2:34:26 PM PDT by kattracks

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) - John Kerry is talking more openly about his personal connection to God and guns as he kicks off the general election campaign asking for support from conservative-leaning independent voters.

As his post-convention bus tour rolls through blue collar and Republican-leaning districts, Kerry has repeatedly described how he began a lifetime of hunting and fishing as a young boy. And lately he's been speaking in more detail about a faith that he and running mate John Edwards share in God.

"We're running to be lay leaders, but there isn't any way that you're not affected by your fundamental values, the faith that brings you to the table," Kerry said Sunday to worshippers at Greater Grace Temple in the heart of the presidential campaign battleground in Ohio.

With his political enemies trying to portray Kerry as an aloof Boston Brahmin, Kerry's campaign is putting a bigger focus on common values that he shares with average Americans - fishing and hunting, family and faith.

"I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday," Kerry said as he accepted the Democratic presidential nomination Thursday.

Kerry didn't mention his interest in hunting in that speech, but he has been describing it on his post-convention bus tour through more conservative areas. In Greensburg, Pa., on Saturday, Kerry pointed out a small group of men wearing bright orange shirts that said "Sportsmen 4 Kerry."

"I've been a fisherman since I was about three years old, four years old," Kerry said. "Flung my first line out with my dad. I've been a hunter since I was about 12 years old, and I went through the whole progression, you know, BB gun to .22s to .30-30, you name it."

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat, said the gun vote could make the difference for Kerry in Pennsylvania.

"The fact that he is a hunter and handles guns so well, I think, is also very, very helpful," Rendell said as he accompanied Kerry on stops in three Pennsylvania counties that chose George Bush in 2000. "I'm cautiously optimistic. I think we should wind up winning by about 4 or 5 points."

Kerry will face opposition from the 4-million-strong National Rifle Association. A quarter of NRA members live in West Virginia, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Missouri and Pennsylvania, all potential swing states.

The NRA says Kerry usually votes against gun rights in the Senate. Kerry supports extending the ban on assault-type weapons and requiring background checks at gun shows. He opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits.

Kerry touts his love of fishing and hunting amid his call for environmental conservation, a position more popular with his Democratic base.

"I understand something about hunting and fishing," Kerry said in Wheeling, W. Va., Saturday "In the United States of America today in 28 of our states, ... you're not allowed to eat the fish if you're lucky enough to catch them in the waters of those states because of the level of mercury, the level of toxics and pollution. We have an obligation ... if we want to hunt and we want to fish to make sure it's there not just for us but for future generations."

Kerry's talk of God also could help him shore up part of his base, especially as he spends his Sundays worshipping at largely black churches. Sunday, Kerry told the mostly black congregation at the non-denominational Greater Grace Temple that he and Edwards, who lost his son in a car accident, survived personal tragedy through faith in God.

"I was at war, lost some of my best friends, those I grew up with and those I fought with," Kerry said. "And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on? We all question. And we learn that even though suffering, through loss, we get in touch with power, with the being, with the almighty."

Even among the scientists and technicians at Florida's Kennedy Space Center, Kerry paid tribute Monday to "the higher power.""More physicists and more and more scientists, the more they learn in some ways the less they know about some things and the more they believe in that power," Kerry said.

Kerry tries to distinguish himself from President Bush on religion. On CBS'"Face the Nation" program broadcast Sunday, Kerry said Bush occasionally has crossed a line between church and state, although he said he doesn't know if it's intentional or inadvertent.

"I'm Christian, I'm Catholic, it's important to me," Kerry said. "It has served me through my whole life. But as I said in my (convention) speech, I'm not going to say God is on my side and I'm not going to go out and divide people. I want to pray that we are on God's side."



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; gunvote; issues; kerry; kerryandgod; nra; religiousvote
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Oh, Deer: Steyn Shoots Down Kerry's Hunting Tale
1 posted on 08/01/2004 2:34:28 PM PDT by kattracks
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John Kerry is talking more openly about his personal connection to God and guns as he kicks off the general election campaign asking for support from conservative-leaning independent voters.

Does anybody believe this crap?

2 posted on 08/01/2004 2:35:58 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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Kerrry=Phony
3 posted on 08/01/2004 2:38:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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"The fact that he is a hunter and handles guns so well, I think, is also very, very helpful," Rendell said

This is now past comedic and into the realm of the pathetic.

4 posted on 08/01/2004 2:39:50 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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"We're running to be lay leaders, but there isn't any way that you're not affected by your fundamental values, the faith that brings you to the table

Important question -- Will Kerry's faith be shallow-rooted enough for Chuck Schumer to invite him to the table?

5 posted on 08/01/2004 2:40:20 PM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: kattracks

His hunting tale smells like a "fish" story.


6 posted on 08/01/2004 2:42:20 PM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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What a colossal load of crap. It wreaks of hypocrisy.


7 posted on 08/01/2004 2:42:27 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but you stupid hicks want me talk about it, so here goes: faith in NARAL has given me abortion-tastic values and hope to live by, from Vietnam (I served, you know, and Bush didn't) to this day, from Sunday to Sunday, and then Tuesday, and then I don't have to talk about God for another three years once I'm elected.
8 posted on 08/01/2004 2:43:43 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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Follwing this lecture, Kerry reminisced about his summers spent as a young black Jew working on a kibbutz in Harlem...


9 posted on 08/01/2004 2:46:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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That's what you call one of them there loads of horse sh!t. Nice to finally find that ol' time religion there on the campaign trail. But whatever religion they've found, it isn't Christian.


10 posted on 08/01/2004 2:46:20 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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"The fact that he is a hunter and handles guns so well, I think, is also very, very helpful," Rendell said as he accompanied Kerry . . .


11 posted on 08/01/2004 2:47:26 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Nuance is for girlie men.)
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To: kattracks

Pass the butter the corn is done, can he fool anyone with half a brain?


12 posted on 08/01/2004 2:49:46 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: kattracks

He is trying to appeal to the pro-hunting/pro-gun of his party and those of the "undecided" middle. That is, what few there may be. Either that, he is pathetically trying to shake that Yankee-urban sissy image thing.


13 posted on 08/01/2004 2:50:11 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Vision Thing

Senator...the Second Amendment has NOTHING...NADA...ZIPPO... to do with hunting...It has to do with deposing an abusive government if the need arises.


14 posted on 08/01/2004 2:52:26 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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my 2 cents:

Stinking load of bullcrap hypocrisy
No offense to any real bovines intended.

15 posted on 08/01/2004 2:52:49 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: nmh

Now I know why the air here in Ohio smelled "fishy" today!


16 posted on 08/01/2004 2:52:52 PM PDT by ohiobushman (Kerry is so full of sh!t we need two johns!)
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" I'm not going to say God is on my side and I'm not going to go out and divide people."

So Kerry admits to pandering to the Athieist/Satanist/Wicca vote?

17 posted on 08/01/2004 2:54:04 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Mr. Mojo

Pathetic indeed; recall Kerry's tale of crawling around on his stomach with a 12-gauge double looking for deer.


18 posted on 08/01/2004 2:54:55 PM PDT by Sender ("Hype is on the way!" -John F'n Kerry)
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To: kattracks

His faith-talk is for the Sheepeople. As for his time in Vietnam... GET OVER IT and quit living in the past. Truly a legend in his own mind.


19 posted on 08/01/2004 2:57:08 PM PDT by KingsKindred
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To: Vision Thing

yeah... he went to the Jason Williams School of Gun Handling!!!
20 posted on 08/01/2004 3:00:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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