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TERROR ALERT RAISED

Posted on 08/01/2004 9:47:10 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

Just breaking on CNN


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dhs; ernie; orangealert; orangealert5
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I was evacuated from this building yesterday at 4:15 p.m.

541 posted on 08/02/2004 8:47:50 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Don Joe

The initial warning about "20 suitcase nukes" was never followed up because the details of the story were easily debunked. Primarily, this related to the inability of a nuclear device to be of any use in 2004 if it had been smuggled into the U.S. in the mid-1990s (the fissile material is inherently unstable and requires constant replenishment).


542 posted on 08/02/2004 9:22:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Alberta's Child

Wrong. That's a fatal mistake to make.

The sub critical components have a half life of 24,000 years.


543 posted on 08/02/2004 10:33:39 AM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: firebrand

Are you kidding? If not, why did they evacuate?


544 posted on 08/02/2004 11:10:46 AM PDT by azkathy (Branded by the Rodeo Chediski Fire)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; 185JHP
There's more than humor to this.

As I recall, after 9-11, some strange photos of Bin Ladin were discoverd that had one of the Sesame Street characters superimposed in it. It was believed to be some kind of code or signal. Do you remember that ?

545 posted on 08/02/2004 11:54:03 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: azkathy; Sun; davide; Tabi Katz
It's the Citicorp building. They have an "atrium" where a group that I belong to meets once a month. (Make that "met.") When they told us to leave, we thought it was just more of the usual harassment. A friend who worked at the Statue of Liberty thought I was nuts to stop off at the Ladies' Room.

I think they will go after this building and the Prudential by plane if they decide to go after them--look how they both stick out like sore thumbs. For geniuses who couldn't find the White House and had to strike a funny-looking five-sided building instead, these things are important.

546 posted on 08/02/2004 1:05:59 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ShandaLear

One if by Bush, two if by Kerry.


547 posted on 08/02/2004 4:18:09 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't blame me - I voted for McClintock!)
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To: happygrl

Steaganography? It can be done, with the right equipment.


548 posted on 08/02/2004 5:06:42 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "If the Lord God is your Copilot, you need to change seats." (d,v,c)
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To: snopercod

My pleasure. Great to see you!


549 posted on 08/02/2004 9:36:03 PM PDT by Deb (Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
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To: HipShot
Wrong. That's a fatal mistake to make.

The sub critical components have a half life of 24,000 years.

Also note the subtle use of misdirection, i.e., the "mid-1990s" slipped in, to reframe the timeframe. IIRC, the stuff mentioned last week (or was it the week before?) was of allegedly recent import, presumably maintained up to the point it was walked across the border.

Moving right along, it has occurred to me that this weekend's "sudden" alert-panic is curiously juxtaposed with the LAST alert-panic (the one that allegedly involved the aforementioned tac-nukes).

However, there has to date been ZERO mention of the last alert (in the context of the present alert).

This has moved me to speculate that the elephant under the carpet that no one wants to mention is in fact there, under the carpet.

In other words, I suspect that the "whatever it was" of the last alert (quite possibly a number of tactical nukes) are still "at large", and, they have NOT been intercepted, and it's starting to get down to the "oh-sh** hour", with no hope in sight (other than pathetic feel-good/look-good gestures like they're doing in NYC the past few days).

What made my own blood run cold vis-a-vis this scenario was the Drudge headline yesterday -- since confirmed via multiple sources -- that the "big news" was in fact OLD news.

When they drop what they're doing and go into overdrive in a mad panic to put up the barricades NOW NOW NOW! -- and, the "news" that's motivated the mad dash, is actually OLD "news", then what you're faced with is the MO of a "cover story."

So, if they're actually using some dreadfully OLD "news" as a cover story to rationalize a sudden mad dash to secure a bunch of targets, it smacks of a truly terrifying oh-shi* moment -- the likes of which they DARE not disclose (thus the pathetic cover story dredged up to "explain" why it's necessary).

It's like buying a house, and after you're there a month, you discover that a few years ago, someone toilet-papered your trees on haloween. It's now mid-summer. So, you drop what you're doing, install lights, security cameras, a concertina wire perimeter, concrete barricades, and full time rent-an-army to patrol the border, NOW!

Um, "NOW"?

What's wrong with this picture?

Everything.

Unless...

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

Damn.

PS: Does anyone know of anything going on in Miami in this same timeframe that would require "heavy" airplane old hands to drop what they're doing, and race out to Miami post haste, leaving lame cover stories of their own?

If the answer is a "loose lips" thing, then don't say it, obviously.

550 posted on 08/03/2004 7:50:52 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: happygrl
As I recall, after 9-11, some strange photos of Bin Ladin were discoverd that had one of the Sesame Street characters superimposed in it. It was believed to be some kind of code or signal. Do you remember that ?

Yes, some jihadi moron wanted to print up a photo of OBL, so he downloaded one off the net.

What the idiot downloaded was a photoshopped picture some guy slapped together to ridicule OBL -- it had a crazed-looking OBL with a loony-looking "Bert" standing there with him. [correction -- since I typed that, I looked at the article I just found -- the photo was designed to ridicule Bert!]

It was fairly well publicized, no "code" involved -- just plain old-fashioned jihadist stupidity.

Google for osama bert photo and here's the first link that pops up:

Wired News: Osama Has a New Friend

(The article explains the "Bert is Evil" website, that features Bert with OBL, Hitler, Jerry Springer, and so forth.)

551 posted on 08/03/2004 8:01:35 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe; ExSoldier; judicial meanz

Don Joe,

I've seen your posts before, and have recently started paying VERY close attention to your insight.

As far as the timing of the new alert, please remember that the information was not from a single source.

The information gained from the computer gave us places to look at, while current chatter gave us the timing. I don't understand why these news outlets would ignore that aspect, except for political purposes.

Having said that, I'm in no way diminishing what you are on to, but giving you food for thought.

As far as the heavies, we do have a category 2 hurricane on the east coast right now. I certainly hope that's what it is about.

Please join us on the Threat Matrix thread. Your input would be quite welcome.

ExSoldier, what air activity in your neck of the woods?

JM, do you need a place to take your family? Are you in harms way?


552 posted on 08/03/2004 8:28:08 AM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: Prime Choice
Personally, I'd like to see these alerts coupled with blanket notices that every lawful American citizen should be able to pack heat.

Techically we don't need no steeeking notice. We have the second amendment. "keep and bear arms. YMMV by state of course. Many states do not prohibit bearing long arms. What it would really take is a notice that henceforce, mere display or carrying of a long arm would no longer be considered "brandishing", which is the way many states get around the nasty little provision in the federal and often their state constitutions. Carrying a long arm in the woods would no longer be considered "hunting out of season" or "hunting without a license".

553 posted on 08/03/2004 9:26:02 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: tob2
Let loose the pigs!

A hog on every bus and aircraft and in every passenger rail car, including the baggage car on passenenger trains. A piglet in every private vehicle, most especially including rentals. Rent a pig as it were.

554 posted on 08/03/2004 9:42:21 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
My Pennsylvania Terrorist Hunting Permit says, "No Tag - No Bag", too

Plus "may hunt day or night, with or without dogs." I'd prefer with, since dogs are only one step below pigs in the Jihadi fear and loathing department.

555 posted on 08/03/2004 9:45:16 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Petronski

Luca Brazzi sleeps with the fishes. (See, also, my tagline.)


556 posted on 08/03/2004 9:49:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Take Luca Brazzi, make him an offer he can't refuse.)
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To: Capriole
Was everyone allowed to carry?

It was a different era. Most places allowed carry before the war, long guns especially, but openly worn handguns as well. (Not NYC of course, their anti firearms laws were older than that)

Civilian "militia" or "state guard", often composed of males too old or too young to enter the regular armed forces, patroled dams, power plants, and other "high value" targets. Many women were part of a network of aircraft spotters, at least on the coasts and in Hawaii. Early in the war civilian boats, yachts actually, were pressed into anti submarine patrol, as were private aircraft. Some of those yachts were even armed with depth charges, IIRC.

557 posted on 08/03/2004 9:59:32 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato

Good point, EG; break out the hounds! Let's go get some murdering Muzzies!!


558 posted on 08/03/2004 10:27:06 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: HipShot

Hey Hipshot!

Dont forget Determined Promise exercises are in progress. They are pretty large scale exercises.

I am fine so far, but if the storm turns west a bit, I could be in for a rough day or so.

Its been raining cats and dogs and the streets are flooded all over the place.


559 posted on 08/03/2004 10:41:18 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz

http://projects.battelle.org/caw/dpromise04.htm

What are the jarheads up to in Martinsville?

Alex is Cat 2 now. She hit Cape Hatteras head on.


560 posted on 08/03/2004 10:54:11 AM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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