Posted on 07/30/2004 6:32:12 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
Ping!
The primary speaker for the workshop was Margo Cowan, who has defended undocumented people for 35 years. Cowan was indicted in 1972 by the Nixon Administration on 52 counts of aiding and abetting illegal aliens; the charges were dropped by former President Jimmy Carter. Cowan currently serves as legal counsel to Rep. Raul Grijalva.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over??
And again and again and again and again....
Of course he doesn't have to prove anything --- and his numbers are absurd.
Even the hardest working are CRIMINAL INVADERS!
In paragraph 7:
1."the rate of recidivism ... is so low as to be ... statistically insignificant"
2."felons... is just a label that can be applied ...depending upon how many times they've been apprehended..."
3."..as of July 15, agents have apprehended 8,283 convicted felons attempting to cross..."
So...when they use the word "felon" they don't mean a criminal, they just mean someone who has tried more than once. The rate of apprehended crossers who try again is insgnificant, yet they have caught 8,283 of them in the last 15 days.
Do these things all go together?
You're on the right track with your thoughts, but your reading of the article is a little skewed.
When they say 'felons', they really do mean felons and they're not talking about the 'felony' of trying to reenter the US.
When the article says 'as of July 15', that is the period from the beginning of the fiscal year - 1 October '03 - until 7/15.
Nope.
1. The coyotes openly brag that all of their customers eventually make it across if they don't give up. Get caught on Monday; make it on Tuesday.
2. The first apprehension is a misdemeanor; all subsequent apprehensions are felonies. The felonies mutiply with the lifestyle. If a US citizen engaged in document fraud, welfare fraud, tax evasion, etc., I don't think Uncle Suck would pass it off as a minor social faux pas.
3. That should read ."..as of July 15, agents have apprehended 8,283 (violent, previously deported) convicted felons attempting to cross (again and carry on with their normal behavior pattern...)"
OK, I see a bit. I read "as of" and interpreted it to mean "since". I understand that error.
It still seems to me as if our compassionate dimwit is saying that the BP attaches the title "felon" to repeat crossers in an attempt to discount the seriousness of the label, then quotes BP stats describing over 8000 of these people. Eight thousand doesn't seem like a neglegible figure, even with my better undestanding of the time frame.
I'm not going to aid and abet but I will not let a fellow human being die when I can prevent it. I do call the Border Patrol when I come across one .
I know --- but when I drive by and see these old people who I know are from Mexico out working in the fields in 100 plus temperature --- and then see how some of the legals are very lazy and never did work but get all kinds of taxpayer money --- I think I'd trade some around --- deport the welfare legals and let the harder working illegals stay in their place.
It irks me because it seems any one --- even someone already on government assistance of some form themselves, can bring over their relatives who have no ability to work and let the taxpayers provide for them --- yet the INS detention center here had some 75 year old guy who was extremely distraught about finding himself behind bars, he had only come to work because his family was desperate. He didn't see how taking a lowly job could be a crime and he had never been in jail in his whole life.
Not that what he did was right --- but I'd trade him for that lazier bunch we also see that happens to be here legally.
Numbers are wild and wonderful. The BP nabbed about 905,000 here on the border last year. They guesstimate they caught maybe one in five, so it might be that 3.6 million made it across safely. But then again, most of that 905,000 tried again and made it, too. So what is the true number?
Praise Allah and pass the guacamole.
A felon is someone who committed a felony crime --- and there are many felons coming over the border --- it's actually a misdemeanor at most to have just been found on the wrong side of the border.
The border patrol is very lenient actually on Mexicans. If they encounter one here illegally --- as long as the illegal doesn't claim US citizenship, present stolen or fake documents, they can choose "voluntary departure" which doesn't go on their record. They can do the voluntary departure over and over and over --- as long as they don't misrepresent their citizenship or were found committing another crime, that's all they get. The only thing they might have to lie about is having a job.
I understand but they should revolt from their slime
ball leaders.
I know what you mean -- and I'd bet a healthy sum that the evil "vigilante gangs" here in Cochise County have already rescued more illegals than these goofballs ever will. The only difference is we always turn them over to the Border Patrol.
IIRC, the label more appropriately fits persons in Cowan's business who aid and abet Illegaliens....
I lost track of which article we were discussing!
This is the one about the workshop held in Bisbee to teach people how to help the illegals survive, but the real goal of the group is to circumvent our national borders.
With that in mind, I don't place a whole lot of credence in the validity of the workshop leader's rhetoric, especially where it helps her cause and hurts ours.
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