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Quick Question: What is a .50 cal BMG rifle?

Posted on 07/30/2004 8:17:31 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I think that it's important to know it's practical usage.

Hitting what you aim at and killing it. Any problem with that?

261 posted on 07/30/2004 4:52:40 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: El Gato
grill war

Should be guerrilla war. The FR spell checker bit me on the butt. Well actually, I clicked the wrong alternative for a misspelling. :)

262 posted on 07/30/2004 4:53:16 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
but they are about 20,000 times farther away.

Make that 11,000 times, I thought the 45-70 shot was at 1 mile, rather than 2.

263 posted on 07/30/2004 4:57:06 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato; cinFLA; robertpaulsen; yall


If you'll take a link to the "Here" link in post 244, you'll see that the government tried to make the "states rights" case, but the court wasn't having that, and did not even mention most of the governments arguments in it's very narrow decision.

249 El Gato

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I searched but couldn't locate the governments arguments for the "states rights" position at your link.

Could you help me, and two of FR's foremost "rightist" defenders find it?

Our boyos cannot believe that CA is infringing in it's prohibition on 'assault weapons'.
Perhaps a Miller quote could help them see the light.




264 posted on 07/30/2004 5:01:34 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Eaker

The judges in the SC that ruled on Miller had to be idiots, as the model 97 was used extensively in WWI in the trenches.


265 posted on 07/30/2004 5:01:49 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: El Gato
"Of course, as admitted by the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals in Cases virtually all weapons can find military use, especially when one considers the grill war/resistance scenario."

Ah, but that's only half of what they said. The other half (the important half) they stated:

"While the weapon may be capable of military use, or while at least familiarity with it might be regarded as of value in training a person to use a comparable weapon of military type and caliber, still there is no evidence that the appellant was or ever had been a member of any military organization or that his use of the weapon under the circumstances disclosed was in preparation for a military career."

The court is still tying the possession of the weapon to a militia-type activity while in possession in order to determine if there is second amendment protection.

No militia activity, no second amendment protection.

266 posted on 07/30/2004 5:19:26 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

The Second ammendment has nothing to do with hunting or practical peacetime useage of weapons.



267 posted on 07/30/2004 5:25:17 PM PDT by Southern62
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Besides a .50 Cal. BMG is there a smaller caliber that is accurate at 1000 yds?


268 posted on 07/30/2004 5:27:17 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: William Tell; Hillary's Lovely Legs
"The Second Amendment very clearly protects a "right of the people",

Yes, the right of individuals to bear arms collectively in a militia for the security of a free state are protected from federal infringement.

The second amendment neither protects nor confers the right of individuals to bear arms outside of a militia. That protection comes from the state constitution.

269 posted on 07/30/2004 5:31:19 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I don't know how many people use them for hunting, it's probably not legal for that in many places.

It's popular mostly for competitive or just plain fun shooting - like tearing-up stuff like 55gal drums, old cars, etc. at long ranges, e.g., 1000 - 3000 yards.

270 posted on 07/30/2004 5:49:05 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: RikaStrom
"Why it's a girlie gun, dontcha know!?! ;-)"

Wellll....you're a different kind of "girlie", girlie!

Not one woman out of a thousand starts salivating when they hear that flat boom of the .50!

271 posted on 07/30/2004 6:06:53 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for the reminder of the water jacketed 50 cal. As soon as I started reading your post I remembered seeing this configuration on the early models. I think, and this goes back a long time, that they were/are on one of the battleship museums that my parents took me to when I was a kid.


272 posted on 07/30/2004 6:09:19 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: robertpaulsen
That is simply not what the second amendment says.

The second phrase is not dependent on the first.

273 posted on 07/30/2004 6:12:59 PM PDT by Shanda
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To: TexasCowboy

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274 posted on 07/30/2004 6:17:45 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; B4Ranch; Eaker
7.62, a few little tips about the .50 that's not common with other rifles:

Keep your eye about four inches from the scope. The rifle moves back a lot faster than your body can move.

Lean into the bipod for a stable position.
Don't try to muscle the rifle into position.
Get your sight picture, weld your face to the stock, relax, and close your eyes for at least ten seconds.
If you're still on target when you open your eyes, you've got good position.

As we get older our lungs don't transfer oxygen as well so your breathing habits change.
When you take that deep breath and let half of it out to hold your sight picture and squeeze the trigger, remember that your brain is going to be hollering for you to breathe much sooner than it used to.

275 posted on 07/30/2004 6:22:27 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: 11Bush
On page 177 of "John M Browning, American Gunmaker" there is a picture of Browning firing the .50 cal. in Colt's pasture in Hartford. The picture was taken in September 1918.

The gun is a water cooled model.

276 posted on 07/30/2004 6:22:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Shanda; robertpaulsen
The second amendment neither protects nor confers the right of individuals to bear arms outside of a militia.

That protection comes from the state constitution.
269 robertpaulsen

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That is simply not what the second amendment says.

The second phrase is not dependent on the first.
273 Shanda

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Careful Shanda... At times its best to humor the impaired.

Robbie's entire house of cards is built upon the fiction that our States can prohibit ~any~thing, even guns, to 'protect' us from the evil within ourselves.
On occasion he gets quite agitated when rebuked.
277 posted on 07/30/2004 6:44:00 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Could you please explain to me what this is...

Something I'd like to have for Christmas.
But I'd have to move out of Los Angeles, as they are outlawed here.
278 posted on 07/30/2004 6:48:08 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

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279 posted on 07/30/2004 6:50:57 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Robert Taylor
The Browning .50 caliber machine gun was created by John Moses Browning, the most inventive
of all American firearms designers.


A couple of years ago I saw a documentary on cable (History Channel?) about the
small arms of the Japanese army in WWII.
After I stopped laughing at some of the miserable weapons the Japanese grunt
was saddled with, I came to my senses and said "Thank G-d John Moses Browning was
an American!"
280 posted on 07/30/2004 6:51:37 PM PDT by VOA
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