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Vatican document 'slams feminism'
Herald Sun ^ | July 30, 2004

Posted on 07/30/2004 5:58:01 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/30/2004 5:58:03 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 07/30/2004 5:59:50 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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"Homosexual unions are totally lacking in the biological and anthropological elements of marriage and family which would be the basis, on the level of reason, for granting them legal recognition. Such unions are not able to contribute in a proper way to the procreation and survival of the human race. The possibility of using recently discovered methods of artificial reproduction, beyond involving a grave lack of respect for human dignity,(15) does nothing to alter this inadequacy."

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

3 posted on 07/30/2004 6:00:48 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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You know, I have many differences with the Vatican, but it's always nice to have them on the right side of a moral issue (pun intended).


4 posted on 07/30/2004 6:01:10 AM PDT by Buggman ("You can't tell a deaf Chinaman anything by whispering in French." --Protagoras)
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To: NYer

Does it touch on the "Feminism"in the Church??


5 posted on 07/30/2004 6:04:48 AM PDT by ejo
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To: NYer

Sure to get slammed for the following, but I would suggest that feminists are not trying to "erase the biological differences between men and woman", rather they are trying to erase the social differences.


6 posted on 07/30/2004 6:12:02 AM PDT by dmz
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Not accurate at all. Feminists want equality in all areas, not just political equality, it is about erasing genders. The movement has done much more harm, than good. Guess who helped usher in abortion and the homosexual agenda?
7 posted on 07/30/2004 6:16:29 AM PDT by johnb2004
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The Vatican has perpetrated a hate crime. </sarcasm>
8 posted on 07/30/2004 6:21:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: NYer

This is a definite 'lead balloon' which will get more laughs than cudos. Sounds a bit like something from the Taliban. Old celibate men telling women what/how to live their lives - chutzpah cubed.


9 posted on 07/30/2004 6:29:06 AM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: familyofman
Sounds a bit like something from the Taliban.

This doesn't sound like something a conservative would say. Hmmm....

10 posted on 07/30/2004 6:31:27 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: NYer
Good.

Betty Freidan was a communist propagandist .

11 posted on 07/30/2004 6:31:57 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: familyofman

Yes, unchecked moral relativism is better. It is better we each make ourselves a god and decide which sins we will celebrate and call normal.


12 posted on 07/30/2004 6:43:16 AM PDT by johnb2004
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To: familyofman

In the same document:

"Nonetheless, according to the teaching of the Church, men and women with homosexual tendencies must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided".

Compare and contrast with the Taliban, who crush them under walls.


13 posted on 07/30/2004 6:44:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Ping.


14 posted on 07/30/2004 6:46:30 AM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: familyofman

That's a lot of liberal cliches for one post.


15 posted on 07/30/2004 6:52:21 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kerry lied, good men died. Go to www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Pyro7480

"This doesn't sound like something a conservative would say"

Why not? My own Mother, although not a feminist, took great pride in her career as a nurse, second only to her pride in being a loving wife and Mother. She took a lot of sh#t for being a 'working mom' long before others went that route & I guess I'm a bit touchy about anyone that appears to be taking a shot at her (maybe a tad overboard - but that's how I took the recommendation). Defending one's family against all comers is a very conservative thing to do.


16 posted on 07/30/2004 6:58:22 AM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: NYer

"The 37-page document to be released on Saturday calls on governments to encourage women not to focus on their careers to the detriment of "their duty to the family""

When will the Vatican start practising what it preaches?Most of the crack-pots now crowding the sacred college of cardinals "focused on their careers to the detriment of their duty to the family"
We have cardinals who helped German women procure abortions (e.g. Lehmann), others who continue to promote prophylactics (e.g. Daneels), and others who knowingly shuffled predatory sodomite priests from parish to parish (eg. Law).
How much more detrimental to the family can you get?


17 posted on 07/30/2004 6:59:43 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: familyofman
A nurse is a legitimate career choice for a woman. My own mother was a nurse. On the other hand, positions in the armed forces, other than medical and some support roles, are not. That's something feminists are pushing.

There was a very good article about the push to get women into the workplace was, instead of pushing further radical changes in society, was ultimately used to further the interests of big-name businesses. You can read the article here

18 posted on 07/30/2004 7:05:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: johnb2004
unchecked moral relativism is better.

You were being sarcastic, and I agree that one should clearly and publicly defend such basic morality. But the Vatican doesn't, and hasn't. That was the controversy over Ratzinger's private letter on the subject of refusing Communion to abortionists and those publicly promoting that industry. He said one thing in the letter. And the US bishops gave him a slap across the face. He wrote back - thank you, may I have another. Ratzinger is worse the Kerry when it comes to flip-flops, if he is ever imagined, on any issue, to stand squarely for morality and Church teaching.

19 posted on 07/30/2004 7:07:02 AM PDT by sevry
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Vatican has perpetrated a hate crime.

Sometimes, being accused of a hate crime should be considered a badge of honour.

20 posted on 07/30/2004 7:07:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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