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(9/11) Report stirs up license debate (CA)
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 29, 2004 | Aurelio Rojas

Posted on 07/29/2004 6:53:38 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad

Report stirs up license debate

9/11 panel calls for standard IDs as legislators weigh a bill on illegal immigrants.

By Aurelio Rojas -- Bee Capitol Bureau
Published 2:15 am PDT Thursday, July 29, 2004

Buried in the 9/11 commission's report is a recommendation that the federal government should standardize identification documents issued by states, including driver's licenses.

In California, the proposal could inject yet another element into a proposed law that would allow illegal immigrants to obtain licenses.

The emotional debate, pitting the Legislature's Democratic Latino Caucus against Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, is expected to resume now that the budget battle is nearing an end.

Meanwhile, President Bush can implement more than 40 of the commission's recommendations by executive order, including the license proposal.

White House officials say he plans to act after a Cabinet-level panel completes its review - but it is not known which recommendations he will adopt and how they would be implemented.

"The president wants this review to be fast-tracked," said Bush spokesman Ken Lisaius. "That why he's charged (Chief of Staff Andrew) Card and others with putting forth options as soon as possible."

Ten states issue licenses to illegal immigrants, according to the National Immigration Law Center. Critics contend such licenses increase the likelihood of domestic terrorism, and they have become more vocal this year.

Lawmakers in 25 states considered 49 bills that would loosen or tighten the requirements for driver's licenses - nearly all died in committee - and at least two bills are pending in Congress.

Bush has not commented publicly on the issue, Lisaius said. But Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, who endorsed the commission's recommendations, said he opposes allowing illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.

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Schwarzenegger had prodded caucus members in his successful push to repeal a driver's license bill signed last year by Gov. Gray Davis during the campaign.

The governor then invited the lawmakers to submit a bill with tougher requirements. But he maintains SB 1160 does not contain adequate provisions for verifying an applicant's identity.

Schwarzenegger has suggested such licenses include a mark identifying the bearer as an illegal immigrant - a proposal Cedillo said is unacceptable.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; nationalid; privacy; sb1160; sb60

1 posted on 07/29/2004 6:53:42 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
The governor then invited the lawmakers to submit a bill with tougher requirements. But he maintains SB 1160 does not contain adequate provisions for verifying an applicant's identity.

When SchwarzRenegger ran, he opposed SB60. The public believed that this meant he was opposed to drivers' licenses for illegals, a false impression he did nothing to correct.

Schwarzenegger has suggested such licenses include a mark identifying the bearer as an illegal immigrant - a proposal Cedillo said is unacceptable.

As far as the Slave Party is concerned, this is all about voter fraud and importing a new constituency to maintain in dependent servitude.

2 posted on 07/29/2004 7:00:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating government regulation is critical to national defense.)
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To: Carry_Okie

If RINOld signs any bill giving illegal aliens the right to obtain a CA driver's license the governor can bend over and kiss his "girlie man" behind goodbye because before the end of the day there will be a recall petition at the printer's. And that's the bottom line!

If we have to run this state by referendum and recall then that's exactly what we'll do!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


3 posted on 07/29/2004 7:56:52 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Something has to be done. I've been a driver for 52 years and had one accident that was not my fault. The Highway Patrol Officer said the driver could not speak English, had no license and no insurance. Maybe it's time to think about:

Must speak reasonable English.
Must be able to read road signs.
Must prove able to drive with a test.
Must have insurance.
Must have proof of residency.

I now support drivers license, but I do feel that a "Non Citizen" should be on the license.
4 posted on 07/29/2004 8:19:25 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!!)
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To: Logical me

Was the driver who hit you arrested?

Allowing illegals to obtain driver's licenses is a joke.
Why on earth would they go to the expense of getting a license and insurance...
they're criminals??? Hello???
They're not here to obey our laws but to take advantage of the benefits of living and working here while not paying taxes and at the same time receiving welfare, food stamps and medical care!!!


5 posted on 07/29/2004 8:47:34 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; FITZ; Spiff; ...

ping


6 posted on 07/29/2004 10:19:21 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: kellynla

All this crap is just another name for $69 billion worth of foreign aid to Mexico.


7 posted on 07/29/2004 10:38:38 AM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: kellynla

ANNUALLY!!


8 posted on 07/29/2004 10:39:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: kellynla
before the end of the day there will be a recall petition at the printer's

Don't forget that many of us will be glad to get those petitions signed!

9 posted on 07/29/2004 10:56:39 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: B4Ranch
All this crap is just another name for $69 billion worth of foreign aid to Mexico.

Yep, when you're right; you're right...unfortunately W and RINOld haven't been made aware of it yet or they refuse to acknowledge it since they're not doing a damn thing to prevent the illegals from crossing the border and/or deporting them outahere!!!
Meanwhile, you and I and every other citizen who lives, works and/or pays taxes is picking up the tab! And the most outraged are the naturalized Hispanic-Americans who are suffering because the illegals are pulling down the wages!
10 posted on 07/29/2004 11:02:20 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: janetgreen
Don't forget that many of us will be glad to get those petitions signed!

Well we recalled one incompetent governor. No reason why we can't recall another!
Like our mothers use to say "Keep doing it 'til you get it RIGHT!" LOL
11 posted on 07/29/2004 11:05:17 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad

why can't Mexicans just use their real drivers license? - perfectly legal here


12 posted on 07/29/2004 11:30:43 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Republicus2001
why can't Mexicans just use their real drivers license? - perfectly legal here

they can...this is all a scam so the 'Rats can get the illegals registered to vote when they go to the DMV for their licenses...not that it really matters anyway...the illegals are already voting here in CA. LOL And you're not even allowed to ask them for an ID when they show up to vote...Is this a great country or what!!! LOL
13 posted on 07/29/2004 12:08:58 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Arnold is conducting a poll on "hot button issues," one of which is driver's licenses for illegal aliens.

To vote in the poll, call 1-916-445-2841 then enter 5, 2, and 2 at the prompts.


14 posted on 07/29/2004 12:21:05 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: gubamyster
Schwarzenegger has suggested such licenses include a mark identifying the bearer as an illegal immigrant.....

If the person is illegal they shouldn't get a drivers license. The law requires that they be detained and deported. Again.......

What part of illegal don't these darn people understand?

15 posted on 07/29/2004 1:28:33 PM PDT by Brownie74
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