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The Case for George W. Bush i.e. what if he's right?
Esquire Magazine ^ | Aug 01 '04 | Tom Junod

Posted on 07/28/2004 1:30:14 PM PDT by oldtimer2

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To: joanie-f

Teriffic insight and a cogent analysis.

Kudos,

knews hound


101 posted on 07/28/2004 8:03:17 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: oldtimer2

Bump.


102 posted on 07/28/2004 8:08:35 PM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: joanie-f
One can't have it both ways, Mr. Junod. One can't revere the Constitution when a war is being prosecuted, and desecrate it in the name of socialist/entitlement ideology.

Amen!

103 posted on 07/28/2004 9:13:56 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
Did you notice this, lass?

The reason he will be difficult to unseat in November—no matter what his approval ratings are in the summer—is that his opponents operate out of the moral certainty that he is the bad guy and needs to be replaced, while he operates out of the moral certainty that terrorists are the bad guys and need to be defeated.

It might not be a "conservative" view point, but it comes darn close. Thanks for the usual wisdom and eloquence.

104 posted on 07/28/2004 9:35:14 PM PDT by aodell
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To: joanie-f
but even those on the far left of the spectrum have got to realize that one can't continue to strive for the global socialist utopia if one is dead.

The problem for all too many of them, I think is that they really *don't* realize that the terrorists' ultimate aims are to kill or enslave everyone. To them, the terrorists despise America, and President Bush, and big business/capitalism/technology/etc., for the same reason that the *leftists* do. In their myopia, they think that the terrorists are just variants of the 60's radical leftists bombers and "revolutionaries".

They completely fail to understand that while the most prominent *targets* of the terrorists overlap strongly with the institutions and entities and ideologies despised by the leftists, that doesn't mean that the terrorists are attacking those targets for the same *goals* or *motivations* as the leftists.

The leftists fail to realize that although the terrorists want to destroy the things that the left dislikes about the West, they want to destroy what the left *likes* about it at the same time. And what the terrorists want to raise up in its place is something that will utterly horrify *any* leftist -- if any are left alive by that time to see it.

But in short, the leftists on the whole still don't "get" that the wolf is after *them*, too.

105 posted on 07/29/2004 4:58:11 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: oldtimer2

Bump for later.


106 posted on 07/29/2004 5:10:12 AM PDT by Buggman ("You can't tell a deaf Chinaman anything by whispering in French." --Protagoras)
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To: oldtimer2
the crisis, that is, that announced itself on the morning of September 11, 2001, in New York and Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia...

As of this morning, the Pentagon was still in Virginia.

107 posted on 07/29/2004 6:46:31 AM PDT by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: knews_hound

Bump


108 posted on 07/29/2004 8:28:11 AM PDT by UB355
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To: Minuteman23; SiliconValleyGuy
I received this from a friend in an e-mail today, with the author cited as ‘anonymous’.  So I did a Google search and discovered that it was written by Alex McRae, ‘a celebrated local irreverent wise guy’ who writes frequent op-ed pieces for the Newnan, GA Sunday newspaper.  Didn’t want to post it without giving this superb author the proper credit.  We need many more such ‘irreverent wiseguys’. :)

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How Would D-Day Have Been Reported by The Media in 2004 ….

June 6, 1944. -NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children. Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops.

Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler." The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised.

"This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought," said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed."

Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded, said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows that President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp. "Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."

Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.

Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains unproven. Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."

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109 posted on 07/29/2004 1:33:09 PM PDT by joanie-f (To disagree with three-fourths of the American public is one of the first requisites of sanity.)
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To: joanie-f

Thanks for your fine contributions to this simply outstanding thread.


110 posted on 07/29/2004 1:38:10 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: tet68
Today, even most of us, and I'm speaking of conservatives although there may be perhaps a liberal there somewhere, cannot grasp the fact that we may have to kill millions of Muslims before this is over...

I firmly believe that this will end up being the case if for no other reason than our nation's (and the west's) unwillingness to take overwhelming action against radical islam early enough.

For this weakness, many, many innocent muslims, westerners, and Americans will die.

111 posted on 07/29/2004 2:31:04 PM PDT by AngryJawa (The Original Grumpy Gen-Xer)
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To: headsonpikes

This is a classic! The guy should be writing a syndicated column.

Thanks Joanie.

Have a safe and happy trip and may "Big Sky Country" welcome you with open arms. :-)


112 posted on 07/29/2004 4:28:07 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f; headsonpikes

Oops. 112 was meant for you Joanie.

Headsonpikes, you can ignore that one. Too much caffeine intake today. :-)


113 posted on 07/29/2004 6:08:47 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded, said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows that President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp. "Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks, I needed that. ;)

114 posted on 07/29/2004 6:33:39 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Minuteman23

And I was so looking forward to that Montana trip!


115 posted on 07/29/2004 7:33:37 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes
And I was so looking forward to that Montana trip!

LOL!

If you ask Joanie nicely if you can hitch a ride, maybe she'll strap you to her bike rack. :-)

116 posted on 07/29/2004 11:20:17 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: Stillwaters

Ping. Highly recommend clicking on the link and printing out this 3-page article from Esquire magazine. Please give it to your literate liberal friends and ask them to read it. It's eloquent, and powerfully written by one of their own who has the courage (in spite of his visceral hatred of the man) to ask himself, "What if Bush is right?" This article would have strong appeal for intellectual liberals. I don't think they can entirely or comfortably ignore its transparent soul-searching.


117 posted on 07/30/2004 12:56:50 AM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: lonevoice

Bumping an excellent read.


118 posted on 07/30/2004 7:56:58 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: oldtimer2

Finally read this article & want to read your comments BUMP. "Mmmark."


119 posted on 08/11/2004 3:55:29 PM PDT by condi2008 (Pro Libertate)
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