Implantable chips get under skin of security experts

EE Times ^ | July 26, 2004 (9:00 AM EDT) | Charles Murray

[porte des morts]

And in each and every instance you use; the entity already has your SSN.( I know you doubt this, but it is a fact. Less than $20.00 per year for this info on this very internet.)

[Freebird Forever]

Applied Digital(IBM) will donate heavily to the usual suspects in congress in return for placing a requirement for the RFID in health care legislation.

Keep your eye on this culprit.

Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., House Democratic Whip.

Earned income: $150,000.
Honoraria, all donated to charity: None.
Major assets: Pension fund, $250,001-$500,000; Digital Angel stock, $1,001-$15,000; credit union account, $1,001-$15,000.

Source

Applied Digital is the majority owner of Digital Angel (which in turn is the patent holder of the Verichip.)

[Junior]

I can't see the government forcing people to put something in them, in what amounts to invasive surgery. The Civil Libertarians already are a bit snarky about lesser invasions of one's privacy. I can see them positively livid about chipping people.

[BlazingArizona]

Such low power wouldn't microwave your body but I wonder how they would turn it on? Surely it wouldn't be on all the time? You would have to re-open the wound every week to change the battery. Also, would it have enough power to transmit even if the kidnappers were to put their hostage in a basement?

AND... GPS will not read indoors. You have to be under open sky. The unit would have to be always-on so it could take GPS readings whenever it could, then use dead reckoning in the dead spots.

[Free Vulcan]

When I opened my current bank account, I asked them if I had to give them my SSN. They said yes, it was federal law. I checked, they were right.

My credit card company wouldn't give me one without one, same with my cell phone co., my utilities, driver's license, unemployment benefits, insurance, etc. You have to give your SSN for a loan, credit card, utilities, insurance, etc., so they can do a credit check...which identifies you by SSN.

Almost any financial or govt institution that you do business with requires a SSN to verify your identity, anyone that says otherwise is blowing BS.

[Travis McGee]

Your reply 16 just about sums it up.

[Travis McGee]

I can't see the government forcing people to put something in them...

Vaccines, for a century.

[Joe Brower]

[Light Speed]

The Insurance sector is another likely forwarder of the subcutinous implant.
They also have the money to handle advertizing and contract relationship for instillation : )

High premiums to those who are not chipped.
not being chipped could see one classified as high risk.

[freeeee]

Just today I read an article here on FR about Digital Angel applying for FDA approval for medical info to be stored on implanted chips.

Currently they are not allowed to do so, they can only store company issued number, not actual medical info. This move would change that, and hold large implications for healthcare, especially given government's aggressive movements into healthcare.

I'm sorry I can't find the link. I did a FR search to no avail.

[Freebird Forever]

medical info to be stored on implanted chips.

The data would not be on the chip. The medical database would be at a separate location.

Currently they are not allowed to do so, they can only store company issued number, not actual medical info.

The FDA has approved the Verichip for use in identification and financial transactions. The current "de novo" review is to insure that the medical database meets FDA approval for security, accuracy, etc.

[freeeee]

Thanks for the info.

[Freebird Forever]

Here's the thread to which you referred.

Under-the-skin ID chips move toward U.S. hospitals 

[freeeee]

Thanks, bookmarked.

You appear to be concerned and knowledgable about this issue. Have you any thoughts about how to avoid being chipped or effective opposition to chipping in general?

What do you predict in 10 years, 20, 50?

[Freebird Forever]

Have you any thoughts about how to avoid being chipped or effective opposition to chipping in general?

I believe that the implementation will be voluntary. Recent polls on the Verichip indicate an 80% nonacceptance rate (for US citizens polled). Watch for lots of slick Madison Avenue-type PR to slowly convert public opinion.

Assume that the Verichip will someday be required for all forms of commercial medicine & commerce. Then, prepare for alternative means of satisfying your needs.

Become as self reliant as possible. Arrange for barter networks with like-minded folks.

What do you predict in 10 years, 20, 50?

If you pull up the FR New Years prediction thread, you'll see that mine aren't worth very much.

: )

Just know your opposition & be prepared.

Then adapt, improvise and overcome.

[Light Speed]

Is Digital Angel satillite GPS capable?.....or soon on the future?

[Freebird Forever]

Watch for lots of slick Madison Avenue-type PR to slowly convert public opinion.

Speak of the devil....

Man microchips plants to prevent future thefts

[Freebird Forever]

Is Digital Angel satellite GPS capable?.....or soon on the future?

They have a product in development known as the PLD (personal locating device). It is said to be an implantable GPS device approximately the size of a zippo lighter.

They are working on decreasing the size.

It is not yet commercially available. The time frame for beta testing, seeking FDA approval and marketing it has not been made public.

A unit known as Digital Angel, a GPS device worn on the wrist in conjunction with a pager sized unit worn on the belt is no longer in development and there are no plans to market it.

[Travis McGee]

Thanks!

[Travis McGee]

Good point.