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LIVE THREAD: DEMCON -- DAY 3
www.freerepublic.com | July 28, 2004

Posted on 07/28/2004 12:07:52 PM PDT by Howlin

Live Convention Video, 7 - 9 p.m. ET
Jesse Jackson
Mayor Martin O'Malley (Baltimore)
N.M. Secretary of Education Veronica Garcia
Rep. Greg Meeks (N.Y.)
Sen. Harry Reid (Nev.)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio)
Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.)
Retired Marine Lt. Col. Steve Brozak, candidate for House in New Jersey
Al Sharpton
Sen. Bob Graham (Fla.)
Gov. Ed Rendell (Pa.)
Gov. Bill Richardson (N.M.)

Live Convention Video, 9 - 11 p.m. ET
Gov. Jennifer Granholm (Mich.)
Retired Lt. General Claudia Kennedy
Retired General John Shalikashvili, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Cate Edwards
Elizabeth Edwards
Sen. John Edwards
Presidential Nomination Roll Call


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KEYWORDS: dnc; dncconvention; drinkondivided; drinkonhealthcare; drinkonvietnam; edwards; hopehaslostitsway; kerry; prozac
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To: Ichneumon

He is going to jerk that little girl's arms right out of their sockets!


3,081 posted on 07/28/2004 7:53:59 PM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: Mo1

Someone call CYS - John edwards just swung his youngest daughter around in the air by her arms!!!!


3,082 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:01 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: TC Rider

Russert is senile.


3,083 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:01 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: don-o
No, this is great!

ROFL !! You're right. ;*)

3,084 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:02 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Howlin

now I know why the edwards' had those two late-in-life kids; political stage props. that boy is ruined for life.


3,085 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:03 PM PDT by smonk
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To: ChadGore

I came in late on Breck Girls speech...is this his infamous "Two America's" drivel?


3,086 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:11 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: Jorge

WHy did Edwards keep repeating "The Dope is on the way"?


3,087 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CounterCounterCulture
They've got two more prop kids. Poor things.

John thinking "I'm going into politics and are kids are almost grown" says "Hey Elizabeth time for more props kids.

3,088 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:20 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the Dems are talking healthcare, how September 10th of them)
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To: CaptRon

Liz Edwards- "Hips are on the way!"


3,089 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:26 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: hole_n_one

They just showed Mondale. He had exactly the same expression Sen. Harkin had the night he stood by as Howlin Howard Dean self destructed!

Yeeeeaaaaaarrrrrgghhhhhh!


3,090 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:32 PM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: TC Rider
Russert: Running to the right of Bush on defense.

That dog will not hunt. Uh, I hope Russert remembers to press that on them

3,091 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:34 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: drstevej

Why can't edwards get that growth lanced....it is grotesque!!


3,092 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:48 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Barlowmaker
Now we Dance!

Go for it, Deiter!

3,093 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:48 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Nuance is for girlie men.)
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To: socal_parrot

LOL


3,094 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:49 PM PDT by johnwayne (I)
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To: All
Unofficial transcript of Edwards' speech. Pretty boring read (thankfully), but let's save it for the record ______________________________________________________

[Cheers and applause] .

>> Thank you, thank you.

[Cheers and applause] .

>> Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Now you know why elizabeth is so amazing, right? I am such a lucky man, to have the love of my life at my side, both of us have been blessed with four extraordinary children, wade, kate, who you heard from, emma clair and jack. We are having such an extraordinary time. Myself and my entire family, at this convention. And by the way, how great was teresa heinz kerry last night? My father and mother, wallace and bobby edwards are also here tonight. You taught me the values that i carry in my heart -- faith, family, responsibility, opportunity for everybody. You taught me that there's dignity and honor in a hard day's work. You taught me to always look out for our neighbors, to never look down on anybody, and treat everybody with respect. Those are the values that john kerry and i believe in, and nothing makes me prouder than standing with him in this campaign. I am so humbled to be your candidate for vice president of the united states. I want to talk [Cheers and applause]

>> I want to talk about our next president. For those who want to know what kind of leader he will be, i want to take you back about 30 years, when john kerry graduated from college, he volunteered for military service. He volunteered to go to vietnam. He volunteered to serve on a swiss boat, one of the most dangerous tuts. As a result he was wounded, honored for his valor. If you have any questions about what he is made of, just spent three minutes with the men that served with him then and stand with him now. They saw up close what he was made up of. They saw him reach into the river and pull one of his men to safety and save his life. They saw him in the heat of battle make a decision in a split second to turn his boat around, drive it through an enemy position, and chase down the enemy to save his crew. Decisive. Strong. Is this not what we need in a commander in chief? You know, we hear a lot of talk about values. Where I come from, you don't judge somebody's values based based on how they use that word in a political ad. You judge their values based on what they spent their life doing. So when a man volunteers to serve his country, the man volunteers and puts his life on the line for others, that's a man who represents real american values. This is a man who is prepared to keep the american people safe, to make america stronger at home and more respected in the world. John is a man who knows the difference between right and wrong. He wants to serve you. Your cause is his cause. That is why we must and we will elect him the next president of the united states. You know, for the last few months, john has been traveling around the country talking about his positive opt optimistic vision for america, talking about his plan to move this country in the right direction. What have we seen, relentless negative attacks against john. So in the weeks ahead, we know what is coming, don't we? More negative attacks. Aren't you sick of it?

>> Yeah!

>> They are doing all they can to take the campaign for the highest office in the land down the lowest possible road. But this is where you come in. Between now and november you, the american people, you can reject this tired old hateful negative politics of the past. And instead, you can embrace the politics of hope, the politics of what is possible, because this is america, where everything is possible.

>> I am here tonight for a very simple reason -- because i love my country. And i have every reason to love my country. I have grown up in the bright lights of america. Oi grew up in a small turn in rural north carolina, a place called robbins. My father, he worked in a mill his life. And i still remember vividly the men and women that worked in the mill with him. I can see them. Some of them had grease on their faces and lent in their hair and they worked hard. They tried to put a little money away so their kids and grandkids could have a better life. They're just like the auto workers, the office workers, the teachers and the shop keepers on main streets all across this country. My mother had a number of jobs. She worked at the post office so she and my father could have health care. She owned her own small business. She refinished furniture to help pay for my education. I have had such incredible opportunities. I was blessed to be the first person in my family to be able to go to college. I worked my way through. And I had opportunities beyond my wildest dreams. And the heart of this campaign, your campaign, our campaign, is to make sure all americans have exactly the same kind of opportunities that I had, no matter where you live, no matter who your family is, no matter what the color of your skin. This is the america that we believe in.

>> I have spent my life fighting for the kind of people that i grew up with. For two decades, i stood with kids and families against big H.M.O.'S and big insurance companies. When I got to the senate, i fought those same fights against the washington lobbyists and because of the patient's bill of rights, I stand here tonight ready to work with you and john to make america stronger. And we have much work to do. Because the truth is, we still live in a country where there are two different americas. One for all those people who have lived the american dream and don't have to worry. And another for most americans, everybody else, who struggle to make ends meet every single day. It doesn't have to be that way. We can build one america. We can build one america where we no longer have two health care systems, one for families that get the best health care money can buy and then one for everybody else rationed out by insurance companies, drug companies, hmo's, millions of americans have no health coverage at all. It doesn't have to be that way. We have a plan. We have a plan that will offer all americans the same health care that your senator has. We can give you tax brakes to help you pay for your health care. And when we're in office, we will sign a real patients bill of rights into law so you can make your own health care decisions. We shouldn't have two public school systems this country, one for the most affluent communities and one for everybody else. None of us believe that the quality of a child's education should be controlled by where they live or the influence of the community they live in. It doesn't have to be that way. We can build one school system that works for all of our kids, gives them a chance to do what they're capable of doing. Our plan will reform our schools and raise standards. We can give our schools the resources that they need. We can provide incentives to put our best teachers in the subjects and the places where we need them the most, and we can ensure that 3 million children have a safe place to go when they leave school in the afternoon. We can do this together, you and i. John kerry and i believe we shouldn't have two different economies in this country. One for people who are set for life, they know their kids and grandkids will be fine. And one for most americans, people would live, paychecks, to paychecks. You don't need me to explain this to you, do you? You know exactly what I'm talking about. You can't save any money, can you?

>> No.

>> It takes every time you -- every dime you make just to pay your bills. You know what happens if you have something that goes wrong, you have a child that gets sick or a layoff or crises in the family and you go right off the cliff. When that happens, what's the first thing that goes? Your dreams. It doesn't have to be that way. We can lift up your family and strength enyour family. Your agenda is our agenda. Let me give you specifics. First, we can create good-paying jobs in this country again. We're going to get rid of tax cuts for companies who are outsourcing your jobs. And instead we're going to give tax brakes to american companies that are keeping jobs right here in america. And we will invest in the jobs of the future and the technologies and innovation to ensure that america stays ahead of the competition. We're going to do this because john and i understand that a job is about more than a paycheck. It's about dignity and self respect. Hard work should be valued in this country. So we're going to reward work, not just wealth. We don't want people to just get by. We want people to get ahead. So let me give you some specifics about what we're going to do. First, we're going to help you pay for your health care by having a tax break in health care reform that can save you up to a thousand dollars on your premiums. We are going to help you cover the rising cost of child care with a tax credit of up to a thousand dollars so that your kids have a place to go when you're at work that they're safe and well taken care of. If your child wants to be the first in your family to go to college, we're going to give you a tax break on up to four thousand dollars in tuition. And everyone and everybody listening here and at home is thinking one thing right now, ok? How are you going to pay for it, right? Let me tell you how we're going to pay for it. I want to to be clear about this. We are going to keep and protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans. 98%. We're going to roll back the tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and we're going to close corporate loopholes and we're going to cut government contractors and wasteful spending and we can move this country forward without taxing the burden to our children and our grandchildren. We can also do something about 35 million americans who live in poverty every day. Here is why we shouldn't just talk about but do something about the millions of americans who live in poverty. Because it is wrong. And we have a moral responsibility to lift those families up. I mean, the very idea that in a country of our wealth and our prosperity, we have children going to bed hungry. We have children that don't have the clothes to keep them warm. We have millions of americans who work full time every day to support their families working for minimum wage and still live in poverty. It's wrong. These are men and women who are living up to their bargain. They're working hard and supporting their families. Their families are doing their part. It's time we did our part. And that's what we're going to do when john is in the white house. Because we're going to raise the minimum wage. We're going to finish the job on welfare reform and we're going to bring good-paying jobs to the places where we need them the most. And by doing all of those things, we're going to say "no forever to any american working full time and living in poverty," not in our america, not in our america, not in our america.

>> And let me talk about why we need to build one america. Because I, like many of you, i saw up close what having two americas can do to our country. From the time i was very young, I saw the ugly face of segregation and discrimination. I saw young african-american kids being sent upstairs in movie theaters. I saw "white-only" signs on restaurant doors and lunchen counters. I feel sufficient an enormous personal responsibility when it comes to issues of race and equality and civil rights, and i have heard some discussions and debates around america about where, and in front of what audiences we ought to talk about race and equality and civil rights. I have an answer to that question. Everywhere. Everywhere. Every where. This is not an african-american issue. This is not a latino issue. This is not an asian american issue. This is an american issue. It is about who we are, what our values are and what kind of country we live in.

>> The truth is, that what john and I want, what all of us want, is for our children, our grandchildren to be the first generations that grow up in america no longer divided by race. We must build one america. We must be one america, strong and united for another very important reason. Because we are at war. None of us will ever forget where we were on september 11. We all share the same terrible images, the towers falling in new york, the pentagon in flames, smoldering field in pennsylvania. We share a profound sadness for the fearly 3,000 lives that were lost. As a member of the senate intelligence committee, I know that we have to do more to fight the war on terrorism and keep the american people safe. We can do that. We're approaching the third anniversary of september 11. One thing I can tell you, when we're in office, it won't take three years to get the reforms in place to keep the people safe. We will do whatever it takes as long as it takes to make sure this never happens again in our america.

>> When john is president, we will listen to the wisdom of the september 11 commission. We will lead strong alliances. We will safeguard and secure our weapons of mass destruction. We will strengthen our homeland security, product our ports, protect our chemical plants and support our firefighters, police officers, E.M.T.'S. We will always use our military might to keep the american people safe. And we, john and I, will have one clear unmistakeable message for al qaeda and these terrorists -- you cannot run, you cannot hide, we will destroy you. John understands personally about fighting in a war. And he knows what our brave men and women are going through in another war, the war in iraq. The human costs and the extraordinary heroism of this war, it surrounds us, in our cities and our towns. We will win this war because of the strength or courage of our own people. Some of our friends and neighbors, they saw their last images in baghdad. Some took their last steps outside of falujah. Some buttoned their uniform for the last time before they went out and saved their unit. Men and women who used to take care of themselves, they now count on others to see them through the day. They need their mother to tie their shoe, their husband to brush their hair, their wife's arm to help them across the room. The stars and stripes wave for them. The word "hero" was made for them. They're the best and the bravest and they will never be left behind. You, you, you understand that. And they deserve a president who understands this and understands it on the most personal level, what they have gone through, what they have given and given up for their country, for us. For us, the real test of patriotism is how we treat the men and women who have put their lives on the line to product our values. Let me tell you, the 26 million veterans in this country will not have to wonder when they're in office, when we're in office, whether they will have health care next week or next year. We will take care of them because they have taken care of us. But today our great united states military is stretched thin. We have more than 140,000 troops in iraq, almost 20,000 in afghanistan. I have visited the men and women there and we're praying thathey try to give that country hope. Like all those brave men and women, john put his life on the line for the country. He knows when authority is given to a president, much is expected in return. That's why we will strengthen andize our military and double our special forces and invest in the new equipment and special forces so our military is the best equipped and best in the world. This will make our military stronger and make sure that we can defeat any enemy in this new world. But we can't do this alone. We have got to restore our respect in the world to bring our allies to us and with us. It is how we won the cold war. It is how we won two world wars, and it is how we will build a stable iraq. With a new president who strengthens and leads our alliances we can get nato to help secure iraq. And make sure iraq's neighbors like syria and iran don't stand in the way. We can help iraq's economy by getting other countries to for give their enormous debt and participate in the reconstruction. We can do this for the iraqi people and do it for our own soldiers and we will get this done right. A new president will bring the world to our side. And with it, a stable iraq, a real chance for freedom and peace in the middle east, including a safe and secure israel. And john and i will bring the world together, john and i will bring the world together to face the most dangerous threat we have, the possibility of authorities getting their hands on a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon. With our credibility restored, we can work with other nations to secure stockpiles of the world's most dangerous weapons and safeguard this extraordinarily dangerous material. We can finish the job and secure the loose nukes in russia. We can close the loophole in the nuclear nonproliferation heat ethat allows rogue nations the ability to build these weapons. That's how we can address the threats we face. That's how we can keep you safe and that's how we can restore america's respect around the world. And together we will ensure that the image of america, the image all of us love, america, this great shining light, this beacon of freedom, democracy and human rights that the world looks up to is always lit! And the truth is that every child, every family in america will be safer and more secure if they grow up in a world where america is once again looked up to and respected. That is the world that we can create together. Tonight, as we celebrate in this hall, somewhere in america, a mother sits at her kitchen table she can't sleep because she is worried. She can't pay her bills. She is working hard, trying to pay her rent, trying to feed her kids but she just can't catch up. Didn't used to be that way in her house. Her husband was called up in the guard. Now he has been in iraq over a year. They thought he was going to come home last month but now he has to stay longer. She thinks he is alone. But tonight, in this hall and in your homes, you know what? She's got a lot of friends. We want her to know that we hear it is time to bring opportunity and an equal chance to her door. We're here to make america stronger at heem so that she can get ahead. And we're here to make america respected in the world again so we can bring him home. And american soldiers don't have to fight this war in iraq or this war on terrorism alone. So when you return home some night, you might pass a mother on her way to work the late shift. You tell her, "hope is on the way." When your brother calls and says he is spending his entire life at the office and he still can't get ahead, you tell him, "hope is on the way". When your parents call and tell you their medicine's going through the roof and they can't keep up, you tell them, "hope is on the way." And when your neighbor calls and said her daughter has worked hard and she wants to go to college, you tell her, "hope is on the way." And when your son or daughter who is serving this country heroicly in iraq calls, you tell them "hope is on the way." When you wake up and you're sitting at the kitchen table with your kids and you are talking about the great possibilities in america, your kids should know that john and i believe to our core that tomorrow can be better than today. Like all of us, I have learned a lot of lessons in my life. Two of the most important are, first, there will always be heartache and struggle. We can't make it go away. But the second is that people of good and strong will can make a difference. One is a sad lesson. The other is inspiring. We are americans and we choose to be inspired. We choose hope over despair, possibilities over problems, optimism over cynicism. We choose to do what is right, even when those around us say you can't do that. We choose to be inspired because we know we can do better, because this is america, where everything is still possible. What we believe, what john kerry and I believe, that we should never look down on anybody. We ought to lift people up. We don't believe in tearing people apart. We believe in bringing them together. What we believe, what i believe, is that the family you're born into and the color of your skin, in our america, should never control your destiny. Join us in this cause. Let's make america stronger at home and more respected in the world. Let's ensure that, once again, in our one america, our one america, tomorrow will always be better than today. Thank you. God bless you. And god bless the united states of america. Thank you.

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3,095 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:50 PM PDT by Nail ( "What about your meeting with Tutu?" they said. And Reagan replied: "Tutu? So-So.")
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To: Howlin
I am deeply depressed because I know the fools out there will by this.

Chin up, Howlin. Things are not as bad as Edwards seems to believe they are. You need an enormous amount of pain to make his message resonate. Gore tried it and blew an election that was his to win.

3,096 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:55 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: harbinger of doom

Surprisingly is the key word here. I wonder if someone paid her.


3,097 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:58 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Petronski; Howlin; ahadams2; redgolum; headsonpikes; thor76; NYer; Aquinasfan; MindFire; ...
Does.anyone.know.why.he.is.going.so.fast? 2,926 posted on 07/28/2004 7:48:04 PM PDT by Petronski

When a con artist is peddling snake oil, he usually talks real fast like a carnival barker so people don't have time to think critically.

3,098 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:58 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Rebelbase

And give us world peace, solve the Mid-East crisis, unite the world and no one will live in poverty anymore...all on the back of the rich (losing their tax cuts). Could he talk any faster?? It wore me out!


3,099 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:58 PM PDT by Bubbette (President Reagan, you are my hero.)
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To: GVgirl; All
OMG! He's talking about forgiving debts to Iraq like Bush and Powell never thought of this.

The stated reasons why Kerry and Edwards voted against the Iraq war money was because the money for reconstruction was in the form of a grant, rather than a loan.

Edwards wanted a loan.(now he wants to forgive a loan that Bush never made, or he wants to forgive other countries loans)

What a marroon!

3,100 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat (for rent)
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