Posted on 07/28/2004 9:21:35 AM PDT by kattracks
Doh! A deer!
Apparently hoping to outdo Hillary Clinton's improbable attempt to reinvent herself as a duck hunter, John Kerry has tried to avoid alienating supporters of gun rights by depicting himself as a deer hunter. Mark Steyn will have none of it.Steyn wrote in the London Telegraph yesterday:
"He was in Wisconsin the other day, pretending to be a regular guy, and was asked what kind of hunting he preferred. 'I'd have to say deer,' said the senator. 'I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach ... That's hunting.'
"This caused huge hilarity among my New Hampshire neighbours. None of us has ever heard of anybody deer hunting by crawling around on his stomach, even in Massachusetts. The trick is to blend in with the woods and, given that John Kerry already looks like a forlorn tree in late fall, it's hard to see why he'd give up his natural advantage in order to hunt horizontally.
Oh, Pooh
"Possibly his weird Vietnam nostalgia is getting out of control. Still, if I come across a guy in the woods in deer season inching through the undergrowth with a mouthful of bear scat, at least I'll know who it is," Steyn noted.
Considering that these days Kerry looks more like a bunny wabbit than Elmer Fudd, perhaps he could use a refresher course from Gun Owners of America, which, by the way, he still hasn't met with, despite his phony claim that he'd meet with any critical group.
I haven't heard of anyone hunting deer with a shotgun. New to me.
Deer have some of the best ears around.Their nose comes first though.They can smell you from a quarter mile away,easy.in my deer hunting days,I knew that I needed to be above the deer,as scent travels upwards,and I damned sure need to make as little noise as possible.Somehow,crawling on my belly with all those leaves under me crunching never crossed my mind as a succesful tactic.
Actually, I do with slugs. You have to in VA
shotgun slugs travel way less than a rifle bullet...in crowded states, the goobermint doesnt want a stray rifle bullet plowing through somones living room 1 mile down range....
The Capt.
?????12-gauge double-barrel shot-gun for deer?????
Better to keep your much shut and let others think you are a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
I've only accompanied an uncle once years ago, in the very thick woods of Alabama. I remember him telling me that the terrain (foliage) has a lot to do whether or not you use slugs or a shotgun.
I met a guy, went shooting with him, who hunted deer with a .410 shotgun, shooting slugs. He lived in the woods in east Texas, the woods are thick enough that if you're close enough to see him, you're close enough to hit him with your shoe. And a .410 slug is actually a pretty healthy chunk of lead.
For a guy living out in the woods without much cash, a .410 has the advantage of being very inexpensive, mainly a single-shot like his. Went target shooting with his .410 and I was surprised out how straight it shot. That slug makes a very satisfying 'thwack' when it hits the target too.
You can shoot deer with a shotgun firing 12 gauge shotgun slugs. Very common round in some states where they do not permit a hunter to utilize a rifle or carbine due to long range distance issues.
But a 12 gauge slug does some damage, even at 100 yards, if it doesn't curve on ya.
I mostly hunt flintlock/Kentucky rifle. Same punch, better accuracy and a lot more smoke :)
I cast and load the [Lyman] slugs in the left side of the pic.
525 gr, .685" diameter chunk of lead hits real hard.
...too bad he doesn't have his Wabbit Suit on...great picture! Sure acts like John Kerry..........
I should say so.
I know that's what the gubmint says about the range of rifle bullets. However, they have obviously never fired any long range shots - even with a .50 BMG you have to hold over on targets in the distance. At 600 yards (not that I'd shoot at any animal that far off that I'd have to drag back over terrain) my .308s drop about 14" from LOS. The gov't types must assume that rifle hunters are using indirect fire type angles to get a mile flight path. They're rifles, not high powered lasers.
Even in states like Iowa, gravity is still the law.
Is this how he hunted the VC in Nam ?
BUT, for you and all of the others on this thread who claim that one doesn't hunt deer with a shotgun, I'd like for you to ponder just one simple question:
Where do you think the word "buckshot" comes from?
A .410 slug in the brain or heart will bring down a deer pretty quickly. I had a single shot .410 when I was a kid, never used it for deer. It was mostly for bunnies.
Go to CheaperThanDirt.com and you can buy 12 gauge shotgun slug ammo. Enough said? Friends of mine use those rounds in certain parts of upstate NY.
We need to set O'Reilly straight... last night he was talking to Ben Aflac! and O'Reilly said Kerry was pro-gun.
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Crawling around on your belly here in Washinton State in the pooring down rain in October would be just about the stupidist thing I could think of. And a double barrel shotgun? Yes, a few do use them according to hunting magazines I've read, but in all my years of hunting, I don't remember running into someone who did.
They do look good in photo-ops though. I can picture Kerry standing over a whitetail buck in his soiless Neiman Marcus hunting outfit.The busk his butler shot the night before using a .22 and a spotlight.
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