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Oh, Deer: Steyn Shoots Down Kerry's Hunting Tale
Newsmax.com ^ | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/28/2004 9:21:35 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Normal4me

I haven't heard of anyone hunting deer with a shotgun. New to me.


61 posted on 07/28/2004 9:39:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kattracks

Deer have some of the best ears around.Their nose comes first though.They can smell you from a quarter mile away,easy.in my deer hunting days,I knew that I needed to be above the deer,as scent travels upwards,and I damned sure need to make as little noise as possible.Somehow,crawling on my belly with all those leaves under me crunching never crossed my mind as a succesful tactic.


62 posted on 07/28/2004 9:39:54 AM PDT by quack
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To: Integrityrocks

Actually, I do with slugs. You have to in VA


63 posted on 07/28/2004 9:39:59 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I must be the source of Gravity, everything seems to come down on me)
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To: Integrityrocks

shotgun slugs travel way less than a rifle bullet...in crowded states, the goobermint doesnt want a stray rifle bullet plowing through somones living room 1 mile down range....
The Capt.


64 posted on 07/28/2004 9:40:18 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: kattracks

?????12-gauge double-barrel shot-gun for deer?????


65 posted on 07/28/2004 9:40:50 AM PDT by yoe (Bill Clinton lied again to the Nation – his Convention speech was 90% bogus.)
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To: lnbchip

Better to keep your much shut and let others think you are a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.


66 posted on 07/28/2004 9:41:10 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Normal4me
You hunt deer with a shotgun?

I've only accompanied an uncle once years ago, in the very thick woods of Alabama. I remember him telling me that the terrain (foliage) has a lot to do whether or not you use slugs or a shotgun.

67 posted on 07/28/2004 9:41:26 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: kattracks

I met a guy, went shooting with him, who hunted deer with a .410 shotgun, shooting slugs. He lived in the woods in east Texas, the woods are thick enough that if you're close enough to see him, you're close enough to hit him with your shoe. And a .410 slug is actually a pretty healthy chunk of lead.

For a guy living out in the woods without much cash, a .410 has the advantage of being very inexpensive, mainly a single-shot like his. Went target shooting with his .410 and I was surprised out how straight it shot. That slug makes a very satisfying 'thwack' when it hits the target too.


68 posted on 07/28/2004 9:43:32 AM PDT by marron
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To: CougarGA7
What kind of deer do you hunt with a shotgun?

You can shoot deer with a shotgun firing 12 gauge shotgun slugs. Very common round in some states where they do not permit a hunter to utilize a rifle or carbine due to long range distance issues.

69 posted on 07/28/2004 9:43:57 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: yoe
I wouldn't use a Double, that's for fowling, NOT for deer.

But a 12 gauge slug does some damage, even at 100 yards, if it doesn't curve on ya.

I mostly hunt flintlock/Kentucky rifle. Same punch, better accuracy and a lot more smoke :)

70 posted on 07/28/2004 9:44:08 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I must be the source of Gravity, everything seems to come down on me)
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To: Petronski

I cast and load the [Lyman] slugs in the left side of the pic.

525 gr, .685" diameter chunk of lead hits real hard.


71 posted on 07/28/2004 9:44:08 AM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: silverleaf

...too bad he doesn't have his Wabbit Suit on...great picture! Sure acts like John Kerry..........


72 posted on 07/28/2004 9:44:46 AM PDT by yoe (Bill Clinton lied again to the Nation – his Convention speech was 90% bogus.)
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To: Gun142
525 gr, .685" diameter chunk of lead hits real hard.

I should say so.

73 posted on 07/28/2004 9:45:05 AM PDT by Petronski ("surburb...server...sirburb...servant...burp...suburb")
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To: Capt.YankeeMike

I know that's what the gubmint says about the range of rifle bullets. However, they have obviously never fired any long range shots - even with a .50 BMG you have to hold over on targets in the distance. At 600 yards (not that I'd shoot at any animal that far off that I'd have to drag back over terrain) my .308s drop about 14" from LOS. The gov't types must assume that rifle hunters are using indirect fire type angles to get a mile flight path. They're rifles, not high powered lasers.

Even in states like Iowa, gravity is still the law.


74 posted on 07/28/2004 9:46:34 AM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: kattracks
The image of this fool crawling around the woods hunting deer is laughable.

Is this how he hunted the VC in Nam ?

75 posted on 07/28/2004 9:46:38 AM PDT by abc1
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To: kabar
I'll grant you that most deer hunting is done with rifles, especially here in the South. In some places in the North, use of a rifle for deer is illegal.

BUT, for you and all of the others on this thread who claim that one doesn't hunt deer with a shotgun, I'd like for you to ponder just one simple question:

Where do you think the word "buckshot" comes from?

76 posted on 07/28/2004 9:47:08 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: marron

A .410 slug in the brain or heart will bring down a deer pretty quickly. I had a single shot .410 when I was a kid, never used it for deer. It was mostly for bunnies.


77 posted on 07/28/2004 9:47:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: Integrityrocks
Who hunts deer with a 12 gauge shot gun? Maybe a 306 or a 30 30 or a few other nice rifles I can think of, but a 12 gauge? Alrightee then....

Go to CheaperThanDirt.com and you can buy 12 gauge shotgun slug ammo. Enough said? Friends of mine use those rounds in certain parts of upstate NY.

78 posted on 07/28/2004 9:47:33 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kattracks

We need to set O'Reilly straight... last night he was talking to Ben Aflac! and O'Reilly said Kerry was pro-gun.

The O'Reilly Factor
Oreilly@foxnews.com


79 posted on 07/28/2004 9:49:35 AM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: TommyDale

Crawling around on your belly here in Washinton State in the pooring down rain in October would be just about the stupidist thing I could think of. And a double barrel shotgun? Yes, a few do use them according to hunting magazines I've read, but in all my years of hunting, I don't remember running into someone who did.
They do look good in photo-ops though. I can picture Kerry standing over a whitetail buck in his soiless Neiman Marcus hunting outfit.The busk his butler shot the night before using a .22 and a spotlight.


80 posted on 07/28/2004 9:50:05 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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