Anyone else see what is wrong with this picture? (Hint: look at the dog...ROTFLMAO!)
Posted on 07/28/2004 9:21:35 AM PDT by kattracks
Doh! A deer!
Apparently hoping to outdo Hillary Clinton's improbable attempt to reinvent herself as a duck hunter, John Kerry has tried to avoid alienating supporters of gun rights by depicting himself as a deer hunter. Mark Steyn will have none of it.Steyn wrote in the London Telegraph yesterday:
"He was in Wisconsin the other day, pretending to be a regular guy, and was asked what kind of hunting he preferred. 'I'd have to say deer,' said the senator. 'I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach ... That's hunting.'
"This caused huge hilarity among my New Hampshire neighbours. None of us has ever heard of anybody deer hunting by crawling around on his stomach, even in Massachusetts. The trick is to blend in with the woods and, given that John Kerry already looks like a forlorn tree in late fall, it's hard to see why he'd give up his natural advantage in order to hunt horizontally.
Oh, Pooh
"Possibly his weird Vietnam nostalgia is getting out of control. Still, if I come across a guy in the woods in deer season inching through the undergrowth with a mouthful of bear scat, at least I'll know who it is," Steyn noted.
Considering that these days Kerry looks more like a bunny wabbit than Elmer Fudd, perhaps he could use a refresher course from Gun Owners of America, which, by the way, he still hasn't met with, despite his phony claim that he'd meet with any critical group.
Anyone else see what is wrong with this picture? (Hint: look at the dog...ROTFLMAO!)
I don't know - it sounds like a really excellent way to get shot by some ijjit who shoots at anything that moves. Maybe Kerry is identifying with the deer for the PETA crowd.
Mrs VS
Isn't that a Parker side-by-side, he's pointing in the wrong direction?
Well, the shotgun part isn't ludicrous, at least. Back where I grew up in Virginia, there were different parts of the deer season for bows, blackpowder muzzleloaders, shotguns, and rifles. Rifle season came in last, just before Thanksgiving. (I've never been much of a hunter myself, but had a lot of friends who were, and my brother's a champion blackpowder shooter and loves to hunt deer with his muzzleloaders.) When you hunted, with what, depended on what county you were in...the rules and regs were, and I assume still are, insanely complex.
As for the crawling-around part...chhyeah, right. Where I grew up near the mountains, people mostly stand-hunted on National Forest or private land. Eastward toward the Tidewater, where there was less public-access land, there were "hunt clubs" that owned several hundred acres, and they'd primarily do deer drives with dogs. (Drives seem to be the primary way people hunt down here in central SC, too.)
Deer season was practically a third November holiday where I grew up (Veterans Day, first day of rifle season, Thanksgiving)--you could get an excused absence for it from high school, with a parental note--and I never heard of ANYBODY crawling on their stomach to hunt deer. Not once. Deer are way too crafty and way too skittish.
Obviously, JF'inK thinks he remembers Charlie in the Mekong wearing antlers.
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I hear his favorite deer load is low brass #8 shot.
First you put out a salt block and then make a corn-feeder from a length of PVC pipe , set up a tree stand and then, come deer season, you go out early in the morning and plug the little bustard right after he finishes his breakfast.
Probably hunted with him before; looks like the dog is favoring one hip.
You could say that it is about "understanding" range, if you view range as something other than the distance at which one can hit the target. But in my experience, a deer that takes most of a tight spread of 0 or 00 at 40 yds will be more able to move under its own power than one that takes a slug at 40 yds.
Not necessarily.
Lotsa heavily-populated places that are shotgun-only, plus deer-hunting in the South where dogs are used, and shotguns again are mandatory.
Not necessarily.
Lotsa heavily-populated places that are shotgun-only, plus deer-hunting in the South where dogs are used, and shotguns again are mandatory.
However I have never heard of crawling around on one's stomach with a double-barrel. It might just work...if I were a deer and saw a blaze orange John Kerry slithering through the underbrush with Old Betsy, I'd think "that's not a threat".
Complete agreement here. 35 yards is about max for buckshot.
I've used both slugs & buckshot.
Some places I hunt you can't see further than 10 - 20 yards.
0 or 00 buckshot is ok. In more open areas I'd use slugs.
Most of my deer hunting though is done in rifle areas
of Michigan, so I use a Savage in .300 win mag loaded with 165 gr Nosler Ballistic tips,
under a simmons 44 mag scope. It's zeroed at 200 yards.
Answer: The dog is pointing in the opposite direction from where Kerry is pointing the gun.
I don't know about the type of gun other than the original site I got the link from (webforum) says it is a double barrel 12ga shotgun (any experts out there?), but you are correct, the dog is pointing in the opposite direction from where Kerry is aiming. Too funny...
I really think that depends on your choke. With an Extra Full, you can stretch that to about 45 yds. But it is just not gonna knock a deer down like a slug.
10-20 yds? That is some thick vegetation! I would agree, however, that a load of buckshot at 15-20 yds packs quite a punch - assuming you aren't losing pellets to trees and limbs.
I haven't hunted deer with a shotgun in at least 15 years, but that is primarily because I don't have to. The shotgun is pretty much restricted to waterfowl and clays.
John Kerry: Honest as a $3 Bill.
I'VE GOT IT!!!
He is on the ground so he can shoot the deer when they climb up to their nests! Of course, the shotgun is because you need 3 1/2" mags to get the deer when they are on the migration south for the summer.
What a minute, how did the whiskey get in my coffee?????
He is a prime co-sponsor of S.1431, which would give a future U.S. attorney general power to ban any semi-automatic rifle or shotgun based on a design "procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency"--arms which are presumed to be "not particularly suitable for sporting purposes."
Hunters considering voting for Kerry simply because he says he supports hunters rights also need to know that Kerry recently left the campaign trail to cast a vote to ban ammunition rounds that are popular with many hunters (the proposal came from Kerry’s more-conservative mentor and senior senator, Ted Kennedy, who specifically mentioned the .30-30 Winchester among others).
Usually, the may reason for the restriction of "shotguns only" was to try to keep people from shooting each other.
It was all too common for people (idiots) with rifles to use their rifle scope as a binocular if they see something moving in the distance. BOOM...they killed some guy. "I thought he was a deer!".
With shotguns and the closer distance to target, the excuse for killing someone is lessened and may become man slaughter or reckless endangerment. For some of ya'll in the Northeast, I don't think that they even want you to have rifles.
Federal Properties is Texas (National Grasslands/National Forest) went shotgun only about 12 years ago. This was Federal Property so the Feds get their own rules/laws.
Yes, I have made simple ground blinds on the edges of wheat fields and laid on may stomach. Even had does step over my feet while I was laying there.
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