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Socialists Join Communists in Backing Kerry
NewsMax ^ | 7/27/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/27/2004 6:19:49 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

Socialits + Communists + Demoncrats = end to capitalism

GET THE PICTURE?


21 posted on 07/28/2004 12:19:48 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Clemenza; wagglebee
No surprise at all. I am waiting to see when the Stalinists chime in. They are always the most realistic faction of the left. After all it was Stalin that coined the term "useful fools". I expect that all the idots will continue to believe the fiction that Karl Kautsky believed in that you can have "democratic socialism" as opposed to "democratic centralism" espoused by Lenin. Eventually it devolves into the "dictatorship of the proletariat" run by those who think themselves the "revolutionary vanguard" (ie. the revolutionary elite or first among equals). Well, guess what? Stalin liked to have all these useful fools shot first.

If Stalinists take over, they will hire Republicans instead. At least we believe in loyalty and have principles and we don't pretend to be something we are not.

22 posted on 07/28/2004 12:30:44 AM PDT by Cacique
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kerry, testimony before Congress, 22 April, 1971, kerry says, "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government,...."*(not on any authorised mission by the U.S. Government or by the U.S. military, kerry and his VVAW group meets and negotiates with the then enemy).

*excerpted from the Official U.S. Congressional Record dated 22 April, 1971.


"revamp the U.S. military", read as kerry's plan to PURGE the U.S. Military of Pro U.S. Military Veterans and Republicans, make it totally dependant on U.N. forces support for any significant achievement capable military(similar to france,germany, etc.), Turn home based U.S. Armed Forces, Intelligence agencies and Law Enforcement agencies into the democratic party's{including CPUSA and DSA} Praetorian Guard!!!!


kerry stabbed U.S. in the back continually since his return from Viet Nam. How much more backstabbing from this 22 April, 1971 testimony(self confessed traitor) before Congress that he(kerry) met with the then enemy in Paris, are we supposed to stand????

Some More Interesting historical news about kerry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160580/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165078/posts

Some of kerry's friends listed below:

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.dsausa.org/

DSA's "Progressive Caucus" Links below:

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp

They are the Enemy Within!!!!

I have at least one or two interesting posts about said such subject matter, below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1165983/posts

And see:

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

More: Communist Party Backs the RATS!!!! below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171176/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172055/posts


23 posted on 07/28/2004 12:47:06 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Old Sarge; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda; firebrand; PARodrig
It is a matter of semantics. Communism has never existed anywhere. Marx believed that was the stage achieved after the state "withered away". The only difference between the socialists who fancy themselves as "democratic socialists" and "communists" (in reality Leninists) is that socialists believed in the co-existence of capitalism and it's eventual evolution into a socialist state via democratic means. Karl Kautsky being the main proponent of this idea. Lenin understood that this was a false state. He of course believe in a command control economy and total control of the state over the means of production and "democratic centralism" (what he meant was dictatorship, the left likes using words to hide intentions).

It was Mussolini who came up with a variant, the socialist corporate state. The society would be divided into "syndicates". the social function of each syndicate within the corporate state was to perform it's particular class function. What mattered to fascists was not the actual "ownership" but "control" of the means of production. They would allow capitalists to exist, but the state would determine what they produced. Hitler and the NSDAP eventually copied that model.

In the 1960's the movement in academia that promoted a theory called "convergence" gained prominence both in Europe and the US. Under this theory the communists countries and the West were evolving towards each other. Communism was becoming more democratic (in their view) and democratic countries were becoming more socialist eventually the two would meet and we would end up with democratic mixed economies with a democratic façade. Of course Reagan, the Pope and the collapse of the Soviet Union put a whole new paint-job on the situation. However, these failed academics are not wont to admit they believe in failed ideas and are always coming up with variants.

There is of course the rantings of that Sardinian Gramsci, whom is quite influential among western socialist circles, but that is for another day.

24 posted on 07/28/2004 12:59:53 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: Cacique
They are not Vietnam combat veterans, but they ARE card carrying members of the Democratic Socialists of America's Progressive Caucus, a group ofUNPATRIOTIC UNAMERICAN subversives that are actively engaged in overthrowing the capitalist system of government in the USA and transforming it into a socialist nation.

"Progressive" is a code word for socialist, note that Sanders of VT is an officer.

Why these people are allowed to get on national TV and not disclose or be asked by the press reagrding their membership in a socialist organization is beyond me.

The table below was downloaded from the Democratic Socialists of America

Members of the Progressive Caucus


officers
Member/Position/District
Address Phone Website
Peter DeFazio
(OFFICER, OREGON-04)
2134 RHOB 225-6416 WEBSITE
Dennis Kucinich (Chairman)
(CHAIR, OHIO-10)
1730 LHOB 225-5871 WEBSITE
Barbara Lee (Vice Chair)
(OFFICER, CALIFORNIA-09)
426 CHOB 225-2661 WEBSITE
Cynthia McKinney
(OFFICER, GEORGIA-04)
124 CHOB 225-1605 WEBSITE
Major Owens
(OFFICER, NEW YORK-11)
2309 RHOB 225-6231 WEBSITE
Bernie Sanders
(OFFICER, VERMONT)
2135 RHOB 225-4115 WEBSITE
Paul Wellstone
(OFFICER, MINNESOTA)
136 HSOB 224-5641 WEBSITE

members
Member/Position/District
Address Phone Website
Neil Abercrombie
(MEMBER, HAWAII-01)
1502 LHOB 225-2726 WEBSITE
Tammy Baldwin
(MEMBER, WISCONSIN-02)
1022 LHOB 225-2906 WEBSITE
Xavier Becerra
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-30)
1119 LHOB 225-6235 WEBSITE
David Bonior
(MEMBER, MICHIGAN-10)
2207 RHOB 225-2106 WEBSITE
Corrine Brown
(MEMBER, FLORIDA-03)
2444 RHOB 225-0123 WEBSITE
Sherrod Brown
(MEMBER, OHIO-13)
2438 RHOB 225-3401 WEBSITE
Michael Capuano
(MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-08)
1232 LHOB 225-5111 WEBSITE
Julia Carson
(MEMBER, INDIANA-10)
1339 LHOB 225-4011 WEBSITE
William "Lacy" Clay
(MEMBER, MISSOURI-01)
415 CHOB 225-2406 WEBSITE
John Conyers
(MEMBER, MICHIGAN-14)
2426 RHOB 225-5126 WEBSITE
Danny Davis
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-07)
1222 LHOB 225-5006 WEBSITE
Rosa DeLauro
(MEMBER, CONNECTICUT-03)
2262 RHOB 225-3661 WEBSITE
Lane Evans
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-17)
2211 RHOB 225-5905 WEBSITE
Eni Faleomavaega
(MEMBER, AMERICAN SAMOA)
2422 RHOB 225-8577 WEBSITE
Sam Farr
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-17)
1221 LHOB 225-2861 WEBSITE
Chaka Fattah
(MEMBER, PENNSYLVANIA-02)
1205 LHOB 225-4001 WEBSITE
Bob Filner
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-50)
2463 RHOB 225-8045 WEBSITE
Barney Frank
(MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-04)
2252 RHOB 225-5931 WEBSITE
Luis Gutierrez
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-04)
2452 RHOB 225-8203 WEBSITE
Earl Hilliard
(MEMBER, ALABAMA-07)
1314 LHOB 225-2665 WEBSITE
Maurice Hinchey
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-26)
2431 RHOB 225-6335 WEBSITE
Jesse Jackson, Jr
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-02)
313 CHOB 225-0773
Sheila Jackson-Lee
(MEMBER, TEXAS-18)
403 CHOB 225-3816 WEBSITE
Stephanie Tubbs Jones
(MEMBER, OHIO-11)
1516 LHOB 225-7032 WEBSITE
Marcy Kaptur
(MEMBER, OHIO-09)
2366 RHOB 225-4146 WEBSITE
Tom Lantos
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-12)
2217 RHOB 225-3531 WEBSITE
John Lewis
(MEMBER, GEORGIA-05)
343 CHOB 225-3801 WEBSITE
Jim McDermott
(MEMBER, WASHINGTON-07)
1035 LHOB 225-3106 WEBSITE
James P. McGovern
(MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-03)
430 CHOB 225-6101 WEBSITE
Carrie Meek
(MEMBER, FLORIDA-17)
2433 RHOB 225-4506 WEBSITE
George Miller
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-07)
2205 RHOB 225-2095 WEBSITE
Patsy Mink
(MEMBER, HAWAII-02)
2210 RHOB 225-4906 WEBSITE
Jerry Nadler
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-08)
2334 RHOB 225-5635 WEBSITE
Eleanor Holmes Norton
(MEMBER, D.C.)
2136 RHOB 225-8050 WEBSITE
John Olver
(MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-01)
1027 LHOB 225-5335 WEBSITE
Ed Pastor
(MEMBER, ARIZONA-02)
2465 RHOB 225-4065 WEBSITE
Donald Payne
(MEMBER, NEW JERSEY-10)
2209 RHOB 225-3436 WEBSITE
Nancy Pelosi
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-08)
2457 RHOB 225-4965 WEBSITE
Bobby Rush
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-01)
2416 RHOB 225-4372 WEBSITE
Jan Schakowsky
(MEMBER, ILLINOIS-09)
515 CHOB 225-2111 WEBSITE
Jose Serrano
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-16)
2342 RHOB 225-4361 WEBSITE
Hilda Solis
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-31)
1641 LHOB 225-5464 WEBSITE
Pete Stark
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-13)
239 CHOB 225-5065 WEBSITE
Bennie Thompson
(MEMBER, MISSISSIPPI-02)
2432 RHOB 225-5876 WEBSITE
John Tierney
(MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-06)
120 CHOB 225-8020 WEBSITE
Tom Udall
(MEMBER, NEW MEXICO-03)
502 CHOB 225-6190 WEBSITE
Nydia Velazquez
(MEMBER, NEW YORK-12)
2241 RHOB 225-2361 WEBSITE
Maxine Waters
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-35)
2344 RHOB 225-2201 WEBSITE
Diane Watson
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-32)
2413 RHOB 225-7084 WEBSITE
Mel Watt
(MEMBER, NORTH CAROLINA-12)
2236 RHOB 225-1510 WEBSITE
Henry Waxman
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-29)
2204 RHOB 225-3976 WEBSITE
Lynn Woolsey
(MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-06)
2263 RHOB 225-5161 WEBSITE



Congressional Progressive Caucus

25 posted on 07/28/2004 1:01:53 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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