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Disney's Fictional Fahrenheit? (M. Night Shyamalan's new movie another Bush Bash)
Fox News ^ | 7/27/04 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 07/27/2004 6:38:11 AM PDT by jalisco555

Forget "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Disney, which didn't want to release the controversial nonfiction film because it deemed it too partisan, has another political movie about to be released.

In fact, M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" could turn out to be more anti-Bush and more controversial than "Fahrenheit" simply on an artistic level.

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In the case of "The Village," when the cover-up is suggested, it's all you can do not to laugh out knowingly, because the message of the film seems so clear. It's almost as if Shyamalan is saying that the woods — called the "Coventry Woods" here — are the red states.

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To: gunnygail
Understood but the enemy picked Red for the Bush states, not us.

No. Blue is used to represent the incumbent, red the challenger. Bush's states will be blue this time around.

41 posted on 07/27/2004 7:22:26 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: avg_freeper
These wackjobs could find a political undercurrent in a Speedy Gonzales clip.
And don't think for one second that it is just a coincidence that Speedy is an illegal alien from Mexico.
42 posted on 07/27/2004 7:22:27 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: AmishDude
The Scarlet Letter...aren't, in stories, doors or other things marked with red paint signifying something bad is gonna happen to the person who lives there?
43 posted on 07/27/2004 7:22:46 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: jalisco555
How about red standing for the fear of the communist threat in the 20th Century?

I haven't seen the film, but if the little village and the scary creatures engage each other, it might also suggest that confrontation, war, disease, are all an unavoidable aspect of life: that, no matter how much we try to escape our mortality, death finds us.

You have a good deal of wiggle room with this, which is precisely what the director wants to convey to you. In the process, he wants to scare you to death.

I think the red states thing is a bit of a stretch, unless there are numerous lines in the movie that suggest otherwise.

I'm going to see the movie and judge for myself.
44 posted on 07/27/2004 7:23:53 AM PDT by Neever
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To: third try
But as it turned out, the message was that our fears are justified, and instead of talking we need to smash their heads in with a baseball bat.

That is the best plot summary of Signs I've ever read.

45 posted on 07/27/2004 7:23:57 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Lancey Howard

Look at the byline - it's Roger Friedman, Fox News' resident Ebert wannabe. This guy is total loony leftist Hollyweird panty sniffer. No doubt a lot of this is his projecting his loathing of George Bush and all things Republican onto this film, for no other reason than to drive conservatives nuts. I would treat anything he writes as garbage.


46 posted on 07/27/2004 7:25:48 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( "While I take inspiration from the past, like most Americans, I live for the future. " - R. Reagan)
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To: longfellow
I agree, it sounds like it's reaching... however we did give Shyamalandingdong's people the shock and awe

No, we didn't. Shyamalan is Hindu and he attended Catholic schools growing up.

47 posted on 07/27/2004 7:27:34 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: jalisco555

We hadn't planned on seeing it, period.


48 posted on 07/27/2004 7:31:32 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: All
"Seen the way the writer-director intends it to be, as an allegory about the culture of fear — the same culture of fear that Michael Moore has been bleating about since September 11th, 2001 — "The Village" should speak to the soul of the anti-Bush movement more than Moore's film."

Moore was attempting to create a culture of fear and anger towards Bush and the Republicans. I don't see Moore as trying to anything but use fear to promote his agenda. Roger Friedman is making a H U G E leap and I very much doubt Shyamalan would agree with this intrepretation.
49 posted on 07/27/2004 7:31:43 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: drjimmy; jalisco555
I take this review with a huge boulder of salt. Friedman claims that the woods represents the "red states," and supports his theory by quoting the director as saying he made the movie with thoughts of the 9/11 disaster...

I completely agree with you. Friedman is trying to hitch his cart to the F911 buzz. Fear as defined by the 9/11 disaster is not the same as fear of fallout from Iraq.

From article: It's almost as if Shyamalan is saying that the woods — called the "Coventry Woods" here — are the red states.

Friedman seems contradictory here. The woods are the red (Bush) states and the fear-monger elder played by William Hurt is supposedly a Bushie? Shouldn't the village represent the red states???

50 posted on 07/27/2004 7:32:13 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Pikamax
I remember a behind the scenes show about the sixth scene where everytime you saw the color Red something was going to happen.

Kind of like everytime you saw oranges (the fruit) in The Godfather, somebody was going to die.

51 posted on 07/27/2004 7:34:22 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: jalisco555

Why does anyone pay attention to Roger Friedman. This is the same wacko who floated the conspiracy theory that NewMarket and Gibson were avoiding Jews and big cities with Passion of the Christ.

Shyamalan on the other hand has a track record of making decent suspense flixs that I'm not embarrassed for my family to see.


52 posted on 07/27/2004 7:34:24 AM PDT by Varda
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To: sharktrager

"You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."


LOL!


Rudyard Kipling, wrote in the 'The Betrothed', "A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a Smoke."

I am sure Slick Willie would have something to say about that!

Dan Akroyd, as Sigmund Freud in an old SNL "Anna Freud" skit: "Sometimes, Anna, a banana is just a banana."


53 posted on 07/27/2004 7:38:09 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Kerry: "Taking America Back!" (...to the economic malaise of the Carter administration))
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To: Neever
haven't seen the film, but if the little village and the scary creatures engage each other,

I have a steak dinner riding on a bet that says we'll never actually see the creatures on screen in full in the movie. I made the bet after seeing the trailer. That's how I would have made the movie, anyway. What is in our imaginations as to "what's in the woods" is much scarier than anything M. Night could conjure, because fear is subjective.

54 posted on 07/27/2004 7:39:12 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: jalisco555

"In fact, M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" could turn out to be more anti-Bush and more controversial than "Fahrenheit" simply on an artistic level."

Sometimes, there are things posted here I just have to filter out. This statement is one of them. Grasping are we...


55 posted on 07/27/2004 7:40:18 AM PDT by Tinman93
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To: CFC__VRWC

Like I said - - Friedman is a troll at Fox News.
I have no doubt that this piece was thrown out there by Friedman in an attempt to try to incite a few gullible conservatives into taking rash action ("boycott, boycott!") against an innocent film, thereby making fools of themselves and discrediting all conservatives. It will be interesting to see if a few insurgents disguised as "conservatives" show up to pretend to take the bait.

Ailes should get rid of Friedman faster than Jim would throw him out of here.

Regards,
LH


56 posted on 07/27/2004 7:47:17 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: hispanarepublicana
What is in our imaginations as to "what's in the woods" is much scarier than anything M. Night could conjure, because fear is subjective.

Good point. The aliens in "Signs" were scariest when they were mostly unseen. The scenes in the cornfield freaked me out.

57 posted on 07/27/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: jalisco555

This is Fox News paranoia. This suuuuuuuch a stretch.

Night's movies have all been excellent thus far without a hint of politics; I doubt very much he would ruin the formula.


58 posted on 07/27/2004 7:48:49 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots. -- Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: hispanarepublicana
I have a steak dinner riding on a bet that says we'll never actually see the creatures on screen in full in the movie. I made the bet after seeing the trailer.

Must....resist...temptation...to....give....away....the...plot...twist....I've....read....on...the....internet......

Think hard about what the "creatures" could be.

59 posted on 07/27/2004 7:49:02 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: sharktrager

Sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna.


60 posted on 07/27/2004 7:49:36 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots. -- Ulysses S. Grant)
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