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FReeper Canteen ~ Part III: War in Ancient India ~ July 27, 2004
A Tribute to Hinduism ^ | July 27, 2004 | LaDivaLoca

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:59:00 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca

 
 

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Part III: War in Ancient India

 
Weapons of War as Gathered from Literature

Dhanur Veda classifies the weapons of offence and defense into four - the mukta, the amukta, the mukta-mukta and the yantramukta. The Nitiprakasika, on the other hand, divides them into three broad classes, the mukta (thrown), the amukta (not thrown), and the mantramukta (discharged by mantras). The bows and arrows are the chief weapons of the mukta group. The very fact that our military science named Dhanur Veda provides sufficiently clearly that the bow and arrow were the principle weapons of war in those times. It was known by different terms as sarnga, kodanda, and karmuka. Whether these are synonyms of the same thing or were different is difficult to say. The Rg vedaic smith was not only a steel worker but also an arrow maker. 

 
Fire-Arms:

It would be interesting to examine the true nature of the agneya-astras. Kautalya describes agni-bana, and mentions three recipes - agni-dharana, ksepyo-agni-yoga, and visvasaghati. Visvasaghati was composed of 'the powder of all the metals as red as fire or the mixture of the powder of kumbhi, lead, zinc, mixed with the charcoal and with oil wax and turpentine.' From the nature of the ingredients of the different compositions it would appear that they were highly inflammable and could not be easily extinguished. 

A recent writer remarks:
'The Visvasaghati-agni-yoga was virtually a bomb which burst and the fragments of metals were scattered in all directions. The agni-bana was the fore-runner of a gun-shot.....

Sir A. M. Eliot tells us that the Arabs learnt the manufacture of gunpowder from India, and that before their Indian connection they had used arrows of naptha. It is also argued that though Persia possessed saltpetre in abundance, the original home of gunpowder was India. It is said that the Turkish word top and the Persian tupang or tufang are derived from the Sanskrit word dhupa. The dhupa of the Agni Purana means a rocket, perhaps a corruption of the Kautaliyan term natadipika. 

(source:
Fire-Arms in Ancient India -  By Jogesh Chandra Ray I.H.Q. viii. p. 586-88).

Heinrich Brunnhofer (1841-1917), German Indologist, also believed that the ancient Aryans of India knew about gunpowder. 

(source:
German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.92).

Gustav Oppert (1836-1908) born in Hamburg, Germany, he taught Sanskrit and comparative linguistics at the Presidency College, Madras for 21 years. He was the Telugu translator to the Government and Curator, Government Oriental Manuscript Library. Translated Sukraniti, statecraft by an unknown author.

He attempted to prove that ancient Indians knew firearms. 

(source:
German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.81).

(For more refer to article by G R Josyer - India: The Home of Gunpowder and Firearms).

In his work, Political Maxims of the Ancient Hindus, he says, that ancient India was the original home of gunpowder and fire-arms. It is probable that the word Sataghni referred to in the Sundara Kanda of the Ramayana refers to cannon. 

(source: Hindu Culture and The Modern Age - By Dewan Bahadur K.S. Ramaswami Shastri - Annamalai University 1956 p. 127).

The word astra in the Sukraniti is interpreted by Dr. Gustav Oppert as a bow. The term astra means a missile, anything which is discharged. Agneya astra means a fiery arm as distinguished from a firearm.  

Dr. Oppert refers to half a dozen temples in South India to prove the use of fire-arms in ancient India. The Palni temple in the Madura District contains on the outer portion in an ancient stone mantapa scenes of carved figures of soldiers carrying in their hands small fire-arms, apparently the small-sized guns mentioned in the Sukranitisara. Again in the Sarnagapani temple at Kumbakonam in the front gate of the fifth story from the top is the figure of a king sitting in a chariot drawn by horses and surrounded by a number of soldiers. Before this chariot march two sepoys with pistols in their hands. In the Nurrukkal mantapam of the Conjeevaram temple is a pillar on the north side of the mandapa. Here is a relief vividly representing a flight between two bodies of soldiers. Mounted horsemen are also seen. The foot-soldier is shown aiming his fire-arm against the enemy. Such things are also noted in the Tanjore temple and the temple at Perur, in the Coimbatore District. In the latter there is an actual representation of a soldier loading a musket. 

The Borobudar in Java where Indian tradition is copied wholesale. They are ascribed roughly to the period 750-850 A.D. There is a striking relief series PL. I, fig. 5, (1605) representing a battle in which two others are seen on each side, one wearing a curved sword in the right hand and a long shield, and the other a mace and a round shield resembling a wheel, all apparently made of iron. The story of the Ramayana is also given as in the Tadpatri temple from Rama's going to the forest down to the killing of Ravana. There is also a wonderful sculpture of an ancient Hindu ship. 

(source: Suvarnadvipa - By R.C. Majumdar. pp 194-5).

Medhatithi remarks thus "while fighting his enemies in battle, he shall not strike with concealed weapons nor with arrows that are poisoned or barbed on with flaming shafts."

Sukraniti while referring to fire-arms, (agneyastras) says that before any war, the duty of the minister of war is to check up the total stock of gunpowder in the arsenal. Small guns is referred as tupak by Canda Baradayi. The installation of yantras (engines of war) inside the walls of the forts referred to by Manasollasa and the reference of Sataghni (killer of hundreds of men) pressed into service for the protection of the forts by Samaranganasutradhara clearly reveals the frequent use of fire arms in the battle-field.

(source: India Through The Ages: History, Art Culture and Religion - By G. Kuppuram p. 512-513).


Lord Rama with his bow defeats Ravana in the gold city of Lanka

In the light of the above remarks we can trace the evolution of fire-arms in the ancient India. There is evidence to show that agni (fire) was praised for vanquishing an enemy. The Arthava Veda shows the employment of fire-arms with lead shots. The Aitareya Brahmana describes an arrow with fire at its tip. In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, the employment of agnyastras is frequently mentioned, and this deserves careful examination in the light of other important terms like ayah, kanapa and tula-guda. 

The agnicurna or gunpowder was composed of 4 to 6 parts of saltpetre, one part of sulphur, and one part of charcoal of arka, sruhi and other trees burnt in a pit and reduced to powder. Here is certain evidence of the ancient rockets giving place to actual guns in warfare. From the description of the composition of gunpowder, the composition of the Sukraniti can be dated at the pre-Gupta age. 

(source: War in Ancient India - By V. R. Ramachandra Dikshitar 1944. p. 103 -105).

 

Next Tuesday, Part IV of War in Ancient India






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To: LaDivaLoca

Thank you Diva for the thread!! Been missing you in the Canteen!! HUGS!!!


81 posted on 07/27/2004 6:27:39 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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82 posted on 07/27/2004 6:29:42 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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83 posted on 07/27/2004 6:29:51 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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84 posted on 07/27/2004 6:32:48 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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I'm sure glad there are people out there like him who can handle that sh!t.

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85 posted on 07/27/2004 6:36:56 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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Good morning armyboy - good to see ya today!!


86 posted on 07/27/2004 6:38:05 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Valin; All

BERG, KILE DAG
Name: Kile Dag Berg
Rank/Branch: O3/United States Air Force, pilot
Unit:
Date of Birth: 10 March 1939
Home City of Record: Seattle WA
Date of Loss: 27 July 1965
Country of Loss: North Vietnam
Loss Coordinates: 211200N 1051800E
Status (in 1973): Returnee
Category:
Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: F105
Missions: 20 Laos, 27 Vietnam
Other Personnel in Incident: none
Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK March 1997 from one or more of the
following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with
POW/MIA families, published sources, personal interviews.
REMARKS: 021273 RELEASED BY DRV
SOURCE: WE CAME HOME copyright 1977
Captain and Mrs. Frederic A Wyatt (USNR Ret), Barbara Powers Wyatt, Editor
P.O.W. Publications, 10250 Moorpark St., Toluca Lake, CA 91602
Text is reproduced as found in the original publication (including date and
spelling errors).
KILE D. BERG
Major - United States Air Force
Shot Down: July 27, 1965
Released: February 12, 1973
After completing the normal training courses for Aviation Cadets at Mariana,
Florida and Greenville, Mississippi, I attended Gunnery School at Lule AFB,
Arizona and Nellis AFB, Nevada. I then had a four year assignment to
Spangdahlem Air Base in Germany where I flew the F-lOOD for a short time.
Later, I flew the F-105D. While in Germany I completed Squadron Officer's
School via a correspondence course. On 22 February I was reassigned to
McConnell AFB, Kansas. I arrived there 27 March 1965. On 6 April 1965 I went
temporary active duty to Takhli Air Base, Thailand. As I recall, I flew about
twenty sorties in Laos and twenty-seven in Vietnam. At 1400 hours on 27 July
1965, I was shot down.

At this point, having dropped many night courses because of temporary active
duties, I had about one year of college, so I am now awaiting orders to the
University of Washington when, in three years time, I wish to get both a
Bachelor's in Accounting and a Master's in Management.

On 3 October 1960 married Elizabeth Ann. We have two boys, Kim and Kelly,
born 1961 and 1963. Ann filed for divorce upon my release. I have now
bought a nice home on Mercer Island in Washington and am enjoying the art of
re-modeling and furnishing.

The past has died, let it die. The present lives, enjoy it. The future is
unknown, don't anticipate it.

Kile Berg retired from the United States Air Force as a Lt. Col. He and his
wife Mary previously resided in Washington.


87 posted on 07/27/2004 6:41:36 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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Photograph, Medal of Honor and Flags

 

*WILSON, RICHARD G.

Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Army, Co. 1, Medical Company, 187th Airborne Infantry Regiment.

Place and date: Opari, Korea, 21 October 1950.

Entered service at: Cape Girardeau Mo.

Born: 19 August 1931, Marion, Ill.

G.O. No.: 64, 2 August 1951.

Citation: Pfc. Wilson distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action.

As medical aid man attached to Company I, he accompanied the unit during a reconnaissance in force through the hilly country near Opari. The main body of the company was passing through a narrow valley flanked on 3 sides by high hills when the enemy laid down a barrage of mortar, automatic-weapons and small-arms fire. The company suffered a large number of casualties from the intense hostile fire while fighting its way out of the ambush. Pfc. Wilson proceeded at once to move among the wounded and administered aid to them oblivious of the danger to himself, constantly exposing himself to hostile fire. The company commander ordered a withdrawal as the enemy threatened to encircle and isolate the company. As his unit withdrew Private Wilson assisted wounded men to safety and assured himself that none were left behind. After the company had pulled back he learned that a comrade previously thought dead had been seen to be moving and attempting to crawl to safety. Despite the protests of his comrades, unarmed and facing a merciless enemy, Pfc. Wilson returned to the dangerous position in search of his comrade. Two days later a patrol found him lying beside the man he returned to aid. He had been shot several times while trying to shield and administer aid to the wounded man. Pfc. Wilson's superb personal bravery, consummate courage and willing self-sacrifice for his comrades reflect untold glory upon himself and uphold the esteemed traditions of the military service.

 

*WINDRICH, WILLIAM G.

Rank and organization: Staff Sergeant, U.S. Marine Corps, Company I, 3d Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division (Rein.).

Place and date: Vicinity of Yudam-ni, Korea, 1 December 1950.

Entered service at: Hammond, Ind.

Born: 14 May 1921, Chicago, Ill.

Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as a platoon sergeant of Company I, in action against enemy aggressor forces the night of 1 December 1950.

Promptly organizing a squad of men when the enemy launched a sudden, vicious counterattack against the forward elements of his company's position, rendering it untenable, S/Sgt. Windrich, armed with a carbine, spearheaded the assault to the top of the knoll immediately confronting the overwhelming forces and, under shattering hostile automatic-weapons, mortar, and grenade fire, directed effective fire to hold back the attackers and cover the withdrawal of our troops to commanding ground. With 7 of his men struck down during the furious action and himself wounded in the head by a bursting grenade, he made his way to his company's position and, organizing a small group of volunteers, returned with them to evacuate the wounded and dying from the frozen hillside, staunchly refusing medical attention himself. Immediately redeploying the remainder of his troops, S/Sgt. Windrich placed them on the left flank of the defensive sector before the enemy again attacked in force. Wounded in the leg during the bitter fight that followed, he bravely fought on with his men, shouting words of encouragement and directing their fire until the attack was repelled. Refusing evacuation although unable to stand, he still continued to direct his platoon in setting up defensive positions until weakened by the bitter cold, excessive loss of blood, and severe pain, he lapsed into unconsciousness and died. His valiant leadership, fortitude, and courageous fighting spirit against tremendous odds served to inspire others to heroic endeavor in holding the objective and reflect the highest credit upon S/Sgt. Windrich and the U.S. Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.

If there be any glory in war, let it rest on the shoulders of men like these" -- Audie Murphy

Thank you to all the military heroes, past and present, who have given me my freedoms.  You are my heroes and I pray for God's blessings on you today.

 You will not be forgotten.

* indicates the Medal of Honor was awarded posthumously

 

     

Graphics and information from the Medal of Honor website.

88 posted on 07/27/2004 6:46:34 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: tomkow6

Good morning Tom!! :o)


89 posted on 07/27/2004 6:47:25 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

Hi, Star!


90 posted on 07/27/2004 6:53:23 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: USVet6792Retired

Goooooooooooooood Morning USVet. See you in a little while.


91 posted on 07/27/2004 7:02:46 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: tomkow6

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92 posted on 07/27/2004 7:04:26 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

Morning Star!! Big hugs to you!

How is baby, and the family?


93 posted on 07/27/2004 7:04:34 AM PDT by trussell (K'nigget. Lady Espiona, Official Sneaky Beeyotch and Vengeful Popper of Lies and Exploder of Retread)
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To: StarCMC

WHAT? LOL ...... I am known for speaking my mind!


Good morning to you. How are you feeling these days. How is our newest "member-in-the-making" doing?


94 posted on 07/27/2004 7:04:43 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - US Marines!)
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To: StarCMC

((HUGS))Morning, Star. How's it going?


95 posted on 07/27/2004 7:06:05 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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You want my "minds" to speak?


96 posted on 07/27/2004 7:08:32 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: Radix

How are you doing? I am curious.........


97 posted on 07/27/2004 7:09:03 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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MINE!


98 posted on 07/27/2004 7:09:25 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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MINE!


99 posted on 07/27/2004 7:09:25 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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To: tomkow6

MINE!


100 posted on 07/27/2004 7:09:25 AM PDT by tomkow6 (........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!........Beach Party!)
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