legs.
Posted on 07/26/2004 8:31:07 AM PDT by Elkiejg
"We don’t know for sure what documents are missing, and we may never know."
I heard that he never handled the originals, but only copies - so they all should still be there.
Does anyone know the procedures used ?
How did this fool ever get a job in intell.
legs.
You are falling for Democrat spin.
Each "copy" was a unique document in that they had all been circulated for review and comment and each had it's own collection of comments attached.
It looks like it was the comments that Berger was stripping away because someone had appended something damaging to the docs.
Suppose for instance, clintion had written on there "we need to do more about airports, we don't want another Jumbo jet brought down off Long Island with a Stinger missile"
that sort of comment would have been devastating once the 9/11 commision got hold of it.
It Appears Berger was going through all versions of the document removing incriminating attachments such as post-its and stealing entire documents where there was something written in the margin that he didn't like.
So what was left was sanitized versions of a report. The incriminating stuff was all stripped away.
"So what was left was sanitized versions of a report. The incriminating stuff was all stripped away."
This you miss-posted to me... but I don't think he had the originals of anything, including drafts or postits.
My best guess is that he wanted to have copies of the originals including margin notes and postits so he ( the DNC ) could spin anything that came out of it. The original writer of the margin notes and postits would not necessarily have a copy of it.
He's not a fool, he's a spy and a traitor. His purpose was to enable and progress communism. Like the Rosenbergs he will take the fall, if necessary to ensure the sucess of commies. Unlike the Rosenbergs he has more cover and assistance from other commies that promote the "fool" label. A fool might get off.
Okaaaaay now...it is all starting to make sense now...
Pentagon memo reveals bugging-Listening device leftover from clinton administration
An excerpt:
The sweep revealed that a wire had been installed inside the wall structure leading to and from the ninth and tenth floors of the DoDIG (areas which comprise the Defense Criminal Investigative Service and the personal office space of the inspector general)."
Clinton's former IG, Eleanor Hill, was staff director of the Joint Intelligence Committee who decided what information the 9/11 committee members would see and which witnesses would be called to testify. She also helped cover up Chinagate according to this story...
Controversial Staffer Clouds 9/11 Probe
Drip...drip...drip...
The results of the investigation was due to be released in the summer of 2002. Why have we not heard about this?
Clinton:"We have all been laughing about it"
I heard this too (I think it was on fox??). What i'd REALLY like to see of course are the originals of the docs he purloined. In the sense that these should tell you if he really had something to gain by disappearing them.
Then again, it's not much of a choice for the dems: either he's stupid, or he's devious. Since he actually WAS a very effective mover in intel, he's probably not stupid, so...
Still, I guess I COULD just possibly imagine it was an honest mistake, if I could see that what was missing wasn't in itself incrimiating/embarassing. Naturally I'm not gonna be holding my breath though...
Exactly correct about each copy having potentially distinct and damaging information. I mean there was probably one copy on which Clinton marked "can't be botherted with this Bin Laden guy--having too much fun with my own Osama Mama. Or another where Hillary indicated that there was nothing to be gained politically by taking action. Or one where Berger indicated he had "lost" the Sudan's offer somewhere on his desk and would just let it slide, etc.
"Each "copy" was a unique document in that they had all been circulated for review and comment and each had it's own collection of comments attached."
Do we know this as fact ?
A "copy" with a handwriten note or a postit would be an original of the note or postit, it appears to me...
I could imagine security being lax if all he had access to were copies of everything, he had clearance to read them anyway and distributing them would be against other laws.
I can't see any reason for anyone to be allowed access to any originals - I would be very interested for some insight by someone who truely knows the procedures.
That's the democrat spin, but it probably isn't true. Time will tell.
I don't have first hand knowledge of this but have heard fom someone who knows what happens to these documents and how they are handled.
Each copy of each revision of the draft circulated to different locations (Say, one to the White House, one to the Pentagon, and one to Justice) Each copy then collected a different set of comments and found it's way back to the author (Clarke in this case) The copies, once dealt with by Clarke are then Archived with their comments.
I think your assertion that further copies are made in the Archives is misguided. When you are guarding secrets why would you unnecessarily double your task by making copies?
Surely, the fact that they are originals is why the eloborate procedures for handling and guarding them are in place.
If Berger was placing stuff in his socks it is hadly likely he would get 8 x 11 pages in there, but post-its are a distinct possibility.
I still believe he was sanitizing the comments, thats why he wanted all the circulated copies of the drafts.
"When you are guarding secrets why would you unnecessarily double your task by making copies? "
My thoughts were that he would request the documents from the clerks, who would then make and give him copies of each one to review - those copies would be accounted for and destroyed when he leaves.
This way they never handle the originals, and a record could be keep of each document reviewed.
But I guess that would make too much sense :-)
That is way too logical....:-)
Actually it becomes something of a logistical nightmare once you are into documents that maybe hundreds of pages.
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