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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

This fight is a spiritual one. It does not belong to the Government. I never said that sin was OK. I said that it's not the government's job to decide, nor is it appropriate for us to use our majority status to deny legal rights to others. I am not talking about the religious institution of marriage, but rather the legal benefit bestowed upon married couples by the State. In accordance with OUR OWN PRINCIPLES these must be applied equally. There isn't any wiggle room in the Constitution about that, which is why it would take an AMENDMENT to change that. I disagree somewhat with your assertion that the Pharisees were merely hypocritical. I believe that Jesus objected to their obsession with sin at the expense of a true realization of the nature of God. The Pharisee had a deep appreciation for regulation and order, but no knowledge whatsoever about the nature of the creator. Do you really think that a God who can create a whole universe from a single thought cares deeply about what you stick in your bunghole? His laws are guidance to help us down the road to success and happiness. Pork wasn't outlawed because pigs are infected with evil, but because its meat is unsafe if not carefully cooked. Adultery is forbidden because it harms the emotional health of others. God's laws are rational things. He's not just obsessed with sex, he acknowledges sex's power over the happiness of man. Read the Bible again- pay attention to the Law. Think of why each is important. For most, it's not evil the law fights, but the road to unhappiness and poverty. The laws regarding usury (interest charges) are interesting. The Ten Commandments are given as our guidance from God. there is a common theme to all of them if you have the wisdom to spot it.


11 posted on 07/25/2004 4:24:07 PM PDT by AdequateMan (Gay marriage is a trap, a legal precedent trap, and you're falling for it.)
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To: AdequateMan
What is not equal about our current marriage laws? A lesbian can marry a gay man. A lesbian cannot marry two men. It is equal. And yes we have every right to decide how marriage is define by approval of the majority. It is also defined by nature. The definition of marriage was not defined by this generation of Christians. It was handed down to us by the generation before us, and the one before them, and so on and so forth. It is a standard passed down through the wisdom of the ages. What is not okay is for it to be redefined by an authoritarian judiciary. And if they succeed at imposing a redefinition of marriage, do not kid yourself into thinking that that is equal. What about single people? Who visits them in the hospital? Who collects on the Social Security when they die? Etc... Should they lose out because they are not sleeping with anyone? Marriage is of gov't interest only because of children. Heterosexuals produce them. It is in everyone's best interest -- including those who behave homosexually -- to encourage mothers and fathers to stay together. The gov't has no interest in seeing gays stay together, unless you want to say they have an interest in reducing the spread of disease. But that could be the same argument for sodomy laws.

I do not think that the Bible should be totally legislated down to the letter. But neither should its concepts be banned from consideration in our lawmaking. It was the inspiration for laws against theft and murder. It was even the inspiration for all men being created equal. The fact is that a majority of Americans find gay marriage offensive and contrary to their moral standards. They do not want it to be the social norm, equal to heterosexual marriage. It is not equal in nature and need not be equal in law. We the people have a right to define the foundational structure of our own culture. We should not be ashamed to hold on to the standard that has worked for the generations that went before us. We should not be so arrogant as to flippantly disregard this inherited wisdom, this standard that is so conguent with the very nature of human existence.

17 posted on 07/25/2004 5:14:54 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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