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To: AdequateMan
What is not equal about our current marriage laws? A lesbian can marry a gay man. A lesbian cannot marry two men. It is equal. And yes we have every right to decide how marriage is define by approval of the majority. It is also defined by nature. The definition of marriage was not defined by this generation of Christians. It was handed down to us by the generation before us, and the one before them, and so on and so forth. It is a standard passed down through the wisdom of the ages. What is not okay is for it to be redefined by an authoritarian judiciary. And if they succeed at imposing a redefinition of marriage, do not kid yourself into thinking that that is equal. What about single people? Who visits them in the hospital? Who collects on the Social Security when they die? Etc... Should they lose out because they are not sleeping with anyone? Marriage is of gov't interest only because of children. Heterosexuals produce them. It is in everyone's best interest -- including those who behave homosexually -- to encourage mothers and fathers to stay together. The gov't has no interest in seeing gays stay together, unless you want to say they have an interest in reducing the spread of disease. But that could be the same argument for sodomy laws.

I do not think that the Bible should be totally legislated down to the letter. But neither should its concepts be banned from consideration in our lawmaking. It was the inspiration for laws against theft and murder. It was even the inspiration for all men being created equal. The fact is that a majority of Americans find gay marriage offensive and contrary to their moral standards. They do not want it to be the social norm, equal to heterosexual marriage. It is not equal in nature and need not be equal in law. We the people have a right to define the foundational structure of our own culture. We should not be ashamed to hold on to the standard that has worked for the generations that went before us. We should not be so arrogant as to flippantly disregard this inherited wisdom, this standard that is so conguent with the very nature of human existence.

17 posted on 07/25/2004 5:14:54 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The question is not whether we will flippantly disregard this wisdom, but whether we will enforce its adherence.
All good things of God are voluntary. There exists no coersion within the Gospel.


19 posted on 07/25/2004 5:17:27 PM PDT by AdequateMan (Gay marriage is a trap, a legal precedent trap, and you're falling for it.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

We the people have a right to define the foundational structure of our own culture.

17 The Ghost of FReepers Past

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We have defined the foundational structure of our own culture.

It's called the US Constituion.

The fact that ~you~ think a majority of Americans find a non issue like gay marriage offensive and contrary to their moral standards is not a constitutional factor in our republican form of government.

The majority does not rule in the USA.


25 posted on 07/25/2004 5:43:39 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
The definition of marriage... was handed down to us by the generation before us, and the one before them, and so on and so forth. It is a standard passed down through the wisdom of the ages. What is not okay is for it to be redefined by an authoritarian judiciary. We the people have a right to define the foundational structure of our own culture. We should not be so arrogant as to flippantly disregard this inherited wisdom, this standard that is so conguent with the very nature of human existence.

Yes, Ghost! By opposing gay marriage, we are not espousing a new morality or banging deviants over the head with a bigoted new rule. We are simply defending traditionalism, a traditionalism that has worked for a very long time.

73 posted on 07/25/2004 8:58:22 PM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8)
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