Posted on 07/24/2004 2:58:27 PM PDT by Cracker72
Not approved of, to be sure, but it does happen in humans, and for just about the same reasons.
Mice eat their own offspring and dogs also eat their own sh*t.
So as professed by the environmental wacko's also, we should digress....
I think not!
"Supposedly humans know right from wrong, animals don't. Many animals kill their young. Some fish not only kill their young, they eat them."
Good point. The animal parallels are a poor source of justification for human behavior.
The Bonobo monkeys copulate to establish and maintain the social pecking order in the troup. In a conflict the lower standing animal will assume a receptive female posture and the dominant animal will mount the loser momentarily as a mutual assertion of dominance. If neither assumes the submissive posture then a real fight will occur. These sexual encounters will generally not involve penetration. A squabble between two females will often result in the more dominant female going through the motions of mounting the other female and thrusting away for a few seconds.
Adult males have also been observed doing the same to infant monkeys. If animal homosexuality lends some legitimacy to human homosexuality then pedophilia is also okay by logical extention.
In birds with lifelong pair bonds, sometimes two males pair with a single female making a three way bond. This three way family has a better ability to provide for and protect the young. The two males only mount the female and the relationship is not truly homosexual. If something happens to the female, the two males generally stay together for life and may present male courtship behaviour to each other but they don't have sex because neither of them play the part of the female.
The use of animal behaviour as a rationale for homosexuality is a stretching the evidence to fit.
Hey everybody, new guy here. Will try to post as much as I can. I am a homosexual, conservative, not for gay marriage. It is a real struggle to be a homosexual. I don't condone homosexual acts but wish people would understand it feels normal for a homosexual man to be attracted to another man. I agree something went wrong, what went wrong, I wish I knew. I would give anything to be straight. But believe me, its not a choice. But I do believe its choice for a small amount of people.
Posted this in the wrong article before, sorry for the repeat.
Oh brother. Yes, animals can also become confused. My female dog will often mount other dogs. Dog people will say that this is a display of dominance, and not sexuality, but maybe she is just a lesbian. Who do we make the check out to for 'discovering' this?
My sons dog will mount anything that's handy, other dogs, cats, chairs, people. He doesn't discriminate. I think he's just a horny old dog.
And you figured that out for yourself, before the study? ;~D
There are deviants in all life forms - these are self limiting since they do not reproduce.
No only if we can keep our deviants from artificial inseminations and abuse of our normal heterosexual children through perverted adoption agencies....
"National Geographic Ultimate Explorer documentary about the female's role in the mating game."
I know this is a rhetorical question , but is this writer a complete moron.
Mating is about reproduction. Without the female there is no new generation.
Copulation in the animal kingdom is about production of the next generation and determination of the pecking order.
With the possible exception of a few animals, copulation is hormone driven and only occurs at specific times of the year. Copulation time is intrinsically linked to delivery time. Deliveries occur at a time when the offspring are most likely to survive.
Most grass eaters birth in the spring. Salmon only spawn once a year. Carnivores usually birth when the grass eaters have young, Makes feeding the little carnivores easier.
Pecking order is only important in animals that live in communities. The higher ranked animals are the most likely to mate and pass their genes on. Lower ranked animals may never get to mate.
In wolf packs, only the alpha male and female mate. Any other female that produces pups will have them slaughtered.
If an beta animal approaches an alpha wolf while alpha male is still alive, she will kill him if she can. The rest of the pack is likely to back her up.
Animals in generally do not select mates until the hormone season hits. The rest of the year , members of the opposite sex and especially the same sex are just competitors for food.
Give me a break!
Has anybody ever seen the behavior of bull elks during rutting season? They'll mount other males if there are no females around. Their sex drive is stimulated by the smell of females in season and there aren't always enough females to go around. They don't make a decision to mount anything in sight, but they can't help themselves.
I sure hope the gay folks enjoy the comparison.
Frankly, it should be seen as an insult to compare "unthinking" animals and their behavior to the behavior of human beings, IMO.
Monkeys also pick nits off each other and eat them.
They fool around with same gender encounters, but when the real deal is available, that's what they want.
Two female monkeys grooming each other? Nothing sexual going on, but some smart scientist could probably assign human motivation to it.
The big FLAW in all of these animal studies is that you cannot assign a HUMAN MOTIVATION to animal behavior and that's exactly what the scientists are trying to do.
"My female dog will often mount other dogs."
I think you answered you own question without knowing it.
Of course it is a sign of dominance. She's got nothing to hump with. What do you think being the "underdog" is all about. The one at the bottom of the hump pile.
Without the thrill of submission the only thing she gets for her effort is a kink in the back.
Please send me money, $10's and $20's will do. None of them sequential.
I was taught one reason Humans have religion is to separate Human behavior from animal behavior.
Morality
"That's the gayest dog that I've ever seen."
"Sparky - don't be gay!"
It wasn't really a question.... I knew that already, and we just wrote big checks to the clowns in this article. ;~D
My friend had a little male peke that thought he was the king of the hill and attempted to prove it at every opportunity. This little monster sodomized a male cat frequently.
The cat was not normal. It had a head injury from an MVA, was toothless, and eyeless on one side from same. He could catch mice but didn't know what to do with them afterwards. He was very strangely behaved.
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