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German police raid mosques
Daily Times ^ | 24 Jul 04

Posted on 07/23/2004 7:02:16 PM PDT by xzins

German police raid mosques

STUTTGART: Police raided mosques and Muslim community centres in two southern German states Friday in what authorities said was an attempt to learn more about extremist networks.

Some 400 police officers searched 18 buildings in Baden-Wuerttemberg, checking occupants’ papers as part of attempts to track Islamic extremists, the state Interior Ministry said in a statement. “The goal is to continue an intensive fight against criminal Islamists and to uncover the networked structures of Islamic extremists and terrorists,” the statement said. Authorities announced no arrests. In parallel raids in neighboring Rhineland-Palatinate, some 230 police officers questioned 235 people and searched 102 vehicles. Five people were taken into custody on suspicion of being in Germany illegally. “With the background of the recent attacks in Madrid and Iraq, security authorities believe there is a high potential of Islamist and extremist offenders also in Germany,” state police said. ap


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: badenwuerttemberg; germany; network; rhinelandpalitinate; terrorism
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Perhaps this should be breaking news.....wasn't sure on this one.
1 posted on 07/23/2004 7:02:18 PM PDT by xzins
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To: All

Baden-Wuerttemberg: Home of the US Army's USAREUR Command Group in Heidelberg, V Corps in Heidelberg, and a ton of corps units.

Rhineland-Palitinate: Home of many of the units of the 1st Armored Division, and (I believe) the largest US Base outside of continental America, Ramstein Airbase...a 4-Star Billet. (If Ramstein isn't Rhineland, then it is right alongside it.) Immediately beside Ramstein is the large US military facility, Landstuhl where all our critically injured route to.


2 posted on 07/23/2004 7:07:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

either way - it's a good news...


3 posted on 07/23/2004 7:08:21 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

The extent of it is disturbing.


4 posted on 07/23/2004 7:18:55 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

Great news! Thanks for posting this. Muslims are herded into mosques like sheep to be reminded of their duty to kill the infidel. The mosque is where it all begins. We have muslims in Australian country towns who are happy to go to work, who assimilate, but when the imam arrives, everything turns sour for everyone.
All that the clerics and the mosques are good for is to keep muhammadans in line. They rule by fear. The Saudi's pay for the building of mosques all over the world, and distribute (free) jihadi literature. Mosques are NOT paces of worship as Christian churches are. They are nothing but recruitment centres and collection points for terrorism weapons purchases.
If a muslim prays at all, all that he prays for is that the infidel should all the quicker DIE!
NO MOSQUES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IN THE WEST.

Try asking for a building permit to build a church in Saudi Arabia! We are IDIOTS.


5 posted on 07/23/2004 7:39:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: xzins

europe has a big problem with their muslim communities. france is toast, the netherlands, etc. but if history tells us anything, the germans will not go quietly.


6 posted on 07/23/2004 7:41:32 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Fred Nerks

Saudi Arabia is no friend.

Islam is not peaceful.

Perhaps Germany is beginning to awaken to the demise of their own culture. Like France, there birthrate is below replacement.


7 posted on 07/23/2004 7:44:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Saudi Arabia is no friend.

Islam is not peaceful.

Perhaps Germany is beginning to awaken to the demise of their own culture. Like France, THEIR birthrate is below replacement.


8 posted on 07/23/2004 7:45:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Fred Nerks

"We are IDIOTS"......agreed. Anyone know how many Mosques are now in the US?


9 posted on 07/23/2004 7:46:11 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: oceanview

I agree with you, the Germans will not go quietly. In the Catholic South (where I was born) heritage and history are still alive, unlike the undustrialized areas in the large cities which are overrun by immigrants, thanks to the multi-culturalists. The Christians in the south will not bow down to islam or the socialists. Islam/Terrorism has the potential of splitting several european countries and causing civil strife. Norway has outspoken critics of islam, they want it OUTLAWED.
I believe we will see more of this - europe will turn vehemently to the Right. It won't be pretty. Russia's cities are infested with skin heads who quite openly state their objective is to 'bash and kill foreigners' (read muslims) this is a ground-swell. A natural, organic defense-mechanism, unleashed as the result of unwanted immigration policies of the Left, who believe that humanity should become homogenized.
DAMN THEM TO HELL! (rant over.)


10 posted on 07/23/2004 8:03:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: TheLion

How many mosques in the US? I'm not 100% sure, but I remember reading something along the lines of 1,600. If true, you have that many 'holy sites' in US cities.


11 posted on 07/23/2004 8:09:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Dittos.

BUMP!

But I don't think islamofascists even go to hell. Not worth the warehousing for God. He just zaps them into oblivion like the animals they are.


12 posted on 07/23/2004 8:13:58 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Fred Nerks

Was just reading this site. Seems that about 42% of the 6 million Muslims in the US are black. The figures are all way out of date.


.S. Muslim Population Table
Ethnic Grouping Population (1000) (1990) Percent of Total Muslim Population Definition of Terms

African-
American 2,100 42.0 African-Americans: Those persons of African descent native to the United States of America.

South Asians 1,220 24.4 South-Asians: Those of Indian/Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, or Afghan descent now residing in the United States as citizens or permanent residents.

Arabs 620 12.4 Arabs: People from Arabic-speaking countries of the Middle East and North Africa who are permanent residents or citizens of the United States.

Africans 260 5.2 Africans: People from the African continent who are citizens or permanent residents of the United States

Iranians 180 3.6 Iranians: People of Persian descent, usually from Iran, who are citizens or permanent residents.

Turks 120 2.4 Turkish: People of Turkish descent who are citizens ro permanent residents.

South East Asians 100 2.0 South East Asians: People of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Indochina, or the Phillippines.

American Whites 80 1.6 American Whites: Those of West European descent, who are native to the United States.

East Europeans 40 0.8 East Europeans: People from various regions of Eastern Europe.

Other 280 5.6 Other: All other groups.

Totals 5,000 100 percent.

http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html


13 posted on 07/23/2004 8:17:21 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: xzins

Birthrates and muslim immigration...I don't buy that link, not one bit. There are decent people in countries like Rumania, all throughout the old USSR who want to come to the West, most are land-poor farmers, fisherfolk, miners and hard-working Christians who are not encouraged to become migrants. They are living in poor conditions, in small rural towns without any hope of improving their lives. Why are they not welcome? Who decides? The cost of muslims on welfare is enourmous. Sweden, Norway, France and the Netherlands report that 50% of muslims are a financial burden to the state. Muslims represent 30 of the prison population. Drug dealing and crime is their income of choice.
The West could afford to fly Christians from the old USSR out with first class tickets and still save money! And these are the folks who would go to work, they would assimmilate. As I said, I don't buy the muslim immigration story as a matter of demographics. Not one bit. There's a darker side IMO. Smells of the UN to me. How many muslim nations belong to the UN? Is it 55 or more...hmmmmm?


14 posted on 07/23/2004 8:30:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I know you speak the truth, and I hate it. I hate the "new normal". I hate the anxiety it brings. I hate the fact that the left has tied our hands with their PC BS and we won't get tough. I hate the fact that the birth rate is below replacement. And the mosques just keep going up. I just hate it all.


15 posted on 07/23/2004 8:31:56 PM PDT by Musket
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To: Musket

I feel for you. I wake up in the morning and when I open my eyes, the first thing I realize is that nothing is the same anymore. I suppose it's a lot like when a patient receives a diagnosis that is bad; the only time we don't think about it, is when we are alseep.

But please, don't accept that birth-rate argument at face value. Think about all the years we spent being told how the population was growing too fast, and how we would all be standing on each other's shoulders...how the world was going to run out of resources...remember? And now, we are being asked to believe the opposite. How did the US survive and become the greatest nation on earth with HALF the population? How did Australia survive with only 7 million when we came here in 1949? How did they send men to fight at Gallipoli in WW1? Export enough food to England to feed that nation almost on their own?

To buy that demographics story means we are expected to believe we will only survive with unlimited growth...leading to exactly what we were warned AGAINST until recent times. Populate or Perish vs Unsustainable Growth.

Reeks of indoctrination, to me. Both can't be right.


16 posted on 07/23/2004 8:57:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: TheLion

Fascinating numbers. The 'African-Americans' are the descendants of slaves returning to the belief system of their masters, the arab slave traders. I wonder if any of them realize what the arabs are doing to their 'brothers' in the Sudan.


17 posted on 07/23/2004 9:04:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I'm not sure what part of the link you don't buy.

1. The lower birthrate is factual as far as those kind of statistics go.

2. The rate of Muslims arriving in Germany has been ongoing for some time.

I am not trying to say that Germany MUST bring in Muslims to supplement its population because of low birth rate.

I'm saying simply that both facts are true. (1) low birth rate, (2) muslim immigration


18 posted on 07/23/2004 9:16:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

You're not the one saying it, but someone is. The Right in Germany has always been anti-islamic immigration. But the Right doesn't call the tune, the socialists and the UN does, however.
Unfortunately if the Right isn't listened to, ultimately, extreme reaction will be the result. You can only push people so far...correct?

Human rights, championed by the UN, don't just apply to 'refugees' and migrants. But the socilaists and the UN both, choose to ignore that. The backlash is on its way.


19 posted on 07/23/2004 9:31:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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To: xzins

I'm still thinking about your two points; Low birthrate (1) Muslim immigration (2)

The rationale is oft quoted, that a declining birthrate means there will be no one to pay taxtion; that the country will stagnate, there will be no money for pensions etc. That's the low birthrate consequence.

Therefor muslim immigration is better than the above...

As if migrants were only available from islamic countries, and they do have lots of children, etc.

However, each Western country that has muslim immigrants, is counting the cost. Example; France has been forced to increase its retirement/pension age, and may need to increase the length of its 35 hour working week...to cover welfare costs, at least half of which are being spent on muslim immigrants.

(Pardon me for bringing this up, but an arab man is demeaned by having to go to work.) Islam doesn't have a work ethic!

So, who BUT the UN would literally FORCE its member nations to adhere to its Human Rights policies? And assist islam to infiltrate the West thereby...?

What we are being asked to believe is that the entire West will die out unless we welcome muslim immigrants - who through their belief system (allah says) want us dead. Now, why wouldn't I believe that we are being hoodwinked?

Muslims vote for socialists for good reasons. That's all there is to it. The demographics argument is nothing but Left spin...scare tactics. (PS. I'll say it again. China's one child policy has done nothing to reduce the population.)


20 posted on 07/23/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf book See tagline for Link.)
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