Posted on 07/22/2004 10:46:10 PM PDT by dixie sass
I agree they should have been deported after questioning, but they weren't. Who's fault is it? I think we know the answer to that one. The National Review article wasn't sloppily done, the sloppiness lies in the government's FBI, and while I'm at it, I'll lay blame at the feet of the air marshalls who are on these damn planes looking out for these characters, and the INS who can't read a damn date on a visa. This is why President Bush formed the HSA, so each of these agencies aren't sitting behind walls from one another, rather, they're working together to snuff out trouble.
To me, it conveys the frustration of people bound hand and foot by the policitical correctness from years of democrat "leadership".
Yeah, and what's worse, they keep running to the U.S. Government to bail them out when they go bankrupt, as if they're the aviation equivalent of AMTRAK.
I wish everyone involved in airport security would just screw the political correctness garbage that hinders them and concentrate on what they were specifically and explicitly hired to do.
If I am told I have to show up at the gate to allow myself plenty of time to catch my plane, and the security guards plenty of time to search me, I don't see what the problem is.
The government is asking so little of the people to do their part, I'm asking so little of the government to do their damn job.
One thing that I have noticed is there are a lot of people who talk big, but when it comes right down to the nitty-gritty don't do anything but bite their nails waiting for someone to do something.
Like I said there were most probably people on that plane who said the same thing you did and then did nothing.
Yeah, they do - to them it is a holy war against the "Great Satan". They aren't fighting for the same reasons that we are and we had better realize that.
I know it's hard to believe that people can or will die for their religion blindly without giving it a second thought, but they do.
Remember the Crusades? Have you heard of the missionaries that have died for their beliefs? These people have said it is a Holy War. They have stated that it is retribution for the Crusades.
The municipalities where airports are located are responsible for the security, whether it is baggage handling or vetting passengers. Until they are trained and trained well, we are going to have these problems.
The hardest thing for us to realize is that although we know that further attacks are planned, there is nothing we can do because we don't have the necessary information to abort them.
All we have is a lot of "If's, ands and maybe's". Intelligence is not a precise "science" because it is based on rumour and innuendo. We put unnecessary burdens on the law enforcement personnel in this country simply by expecting them to know who, what, where, when and how. We have got to stop that and let them do there jobs the best way that they can.
They hearings that have been going on are nothing but "Dog and Pony" shows to appease the constituency of the senators and representatives in Congress. The only thing we needed to know was that the government was aware that something was going to happen, which they did, but as we have found out a great expense they didn't when or where.
Intelligence is based on gossip and rumour and you have to sift through the chaff to find the truth and when you are dealing with people - particulary a culture that is so totally different from yours - it is difficult to say the least.
What are you talking about? Have you seen the snippets from the airport security on 9/11? They let those creeps through although they all pinged for metal.
Lol, thanks. I gave up on acroynms when I stopped working for the Navy. And besides, I'm one of those laid back South Carolinians!
I would think with the reinforced doors and the probablity that the Pilots are carrying, there would be little chance of them taking the cockpit.
AV, he is like a certain person that I have known recently -little man - all mouth and not action.
Jimbo, where did you get your information?
I expect the Airports and the Airlines to make it safe for us to fly. I don't think we should be relying on the Feds for every D%$#$% thing.
After all the Airports are run by the municipalities where they are located and it is their responsibility to make sure that we are safe and after that it is the airlines responsibility. If they are unable to do that, then stockholders in both should sell out and air travel be halted.
I am tired of being held hostage by the aviation industry. I don't feel safe in an airport because the security is 99% rent-a-cop and they have no real training or authority. I definitely don't feel safe on planes anymore.
Doesn't surprise me, does it you?
"...assemble bombs in flight and detonate them."
One plane blowing up isn't enough flash for them. It'd have to be a half-dozen or more simultaneously to out-do their last big event.
Which of course, is well within the realm of possibility.
"I think these actions are meant to distract us from the the _real_ next threat....which we do not now know. But I'll bet it doesn't involve hijacking airplanes."
Now thats "imagination". I hope the feds monitor these threads.
Alright already i'm just a big talking pu$$y that will just sit there and do nothing. sorry I responded to your thread. go away already.
It would be an interesting psychological study to see how one makes another being believe that they should do that. Do you think lower IQ or brainwashing? Even dogs have a sense of survival.
What are *YOU* talking about? If they would have given those creeps the attention they should have gotten since they fit the profile of terrorists, they probably would have caught them. Of course, box cutters (razors) were perfectly ok then so who knows what good it would have done. I'm not saying focus on the arabs and don't check anybody else. I'm just saying don't pass them by so they can feel up a cute girl, or deal with a grandma who won't be difficult. They ought to go to prison if they do that and a plane gets hijacked.
"I expect the Airports and the Airlines to make it safe for us to fly. I don't think we should be relying on the Feds for every D%$#$% thing. "
While I agree with the aversion to Fed involvement, the simple fact is there isn't a security company in this country that can do the job required. Because I know this, I took the initial view the President was wrong to resist Federalizing the airport security.
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