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1 posted on 07/21/2004 7:59:23 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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With all the wailing the Left has done about Ashcroft, where the hell has he been? I want this creep in the slammer and singing like a bird.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 8:02:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental regulation is critical to national defense.)
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I hope they call Lanny Davis' bluff--next Tuesday morning. Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.


3 posted on 07/21/2004 8:02:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Nobody "inadvertently" takes sensitive docs in their pants.)
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time to discuss the "millenium memo".


4 posted on 07/21/2004 8:04:35 PM PDT by Principled
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In case folks don't know, classified documents are treated the same whether they are duplicates or not. And notes taken from classified documents receive the same classification as the documents they were taken from. If there was nothing to this story, the investigation would have ended soon after it started. The fact that it has gone on this long means that a violation occurred. You do not want to be the subject of a security violation investigation. Especially when it becomes clear you knowingly committed the violation.


8 posted on 07/21/2004 8:06:51 PM PDT by Rokke
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If the Washington Post starts reporting it, everyone will have to follow.


18 posted on 07/21/2004 8:11:45 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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Kerry told NBC News that he had been unaware Berger was under investigation.

Lawrence O'Donnell on Scarborough Country tonight said that Sandy Berger is the person who leaked the information about the investigation.

23 posted on 07/21/2004 8:14:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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For 35 years I worked in the realm of classified documents. I have also been in conversation with the National Archives, as to what you can take in, etc..

If Berger signed out documents at the Archives, how in the hell did they let him leave withoug signing them back in?

Just more government workers? Do they take this stuff seriously? I saw engineers lose their careers for being a lot less cavalier about security.


26 posted on 07/21/2004 8:17:06 PM PDT by jackbill
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Mrs. Clinton stuffs 900 plus FBI Files.
Gets off free.

Mrs. Clinton looses her precious Rose Firm Billing Records for 2 years.
Gets off free.

Bill Clinton commits perjury.
Gets off free.

Bill Clinton in Oval Office stuffs his cigar in thonged intern.
Gets off free.

Samuel Berger stuffs his underpants in what he calls "an apparent honest mistake" with highly classified top really super secret documents.

Odds are he will go free.

Odds are "we the people" get a ticket for an honest mistake like a "Hollywood stop" getting off free?
None.

It's all 100 % obscene bs...these government bureaucratics only know one thing and that is do whatever it takes to deceive and abuse "we the people" for their own political, financial and personal gain.

What a bunch of f'ing kerry me to hell slimebags.

35 posted on 07/21/2004 8:19:25 PM PDT by harpo11 (Whether demo pants are zipped or not. Somehow they got to stuff somethin' in it..ballot boxes, too!)
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"employees determined that that draft and all four or five other versions of the millennium memo had disappeared from the files after Berger viewed them"

A deliberate attempt to obtain and destroy every copy of that memo. It must be released as the PDB was.


36 posted on 07/21/2004 8:20:02 PM PDT by Grig
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At least when Ollie North's secretary took documents they were secreted in a more interesting garment.


38 posted on 07/21/2004 8:21:27 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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Sandy Berger put his reputation and career on the line for more than just the 9/11 Commission. He pilfered these documents for a reason, and "We the People" have a right to know


43 posted on 07/21/2004 8:23:32 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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And there are no pictures? Haven't these people ever heard of cameras? That makes no sense if they were that alert, I think it's a feint.


44 posted on 07/21/2004 8:24:15 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (The Democratic party has been hijacked by terrorists.)
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Why did these guys not detain Berger?


46 posted on 07/21/2004 8:24:49 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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I can't get excited yet. I keep remembering so many of the Clintonistas who should have been put away - but walked.

Sure, some of them committed suicide, crashed in planes, were shot in their cars...but Berger knows to keep his mouth shut. There are some very powerful people and media companies who will try to kill this story.

I don't think we can depend on the Republican leaders in Congress to ask for a Special Prosecutor or a "Commission" to investigate any further.

We are going to hear this "dog ate my homework" story over and over. "Inadvertent" will become the most overused word in our vocabulary.

If Letterman and Leno pick it up and run with it, perhaps we can keep it alive for awhile.


47 posted on 07/21/2004 8:25:39 PM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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But it was all just an accident, right???? They couldn't have ben on to him because it was all just an accident, right????

If the DemoScum get to spin this away in the face of all the obvious evidence of deliberation, there is no way they can ever be held accountable for anything. We'd better win this one or just give it up.

51 posted on 07/21/2004 8:26:13 PM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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So, if they marked the documents that Berger stuffed down his shorts, were the documents he returned marked? or could he have pulled a switch?


52 posted on 07/21/2004 8:26:32 PM PDT by vikingd00d
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I was going to stay quiet about this, and I'm liable to state the obvious here, especially to former US military communicators.

BUT...I was a NONCOM in the USAF for 13 years, and my primary role was supporting DISA (Defense Information Systems Agency) assets.

The DISA jobs in particular involved handling classified information. Unless other elements of the U.S. Gov't perform management of classified documents in a vastly different manner than the DoD, then Sandy Berger would have signed "some" document attesting that he understands the classification system, and proper usage of information afforded its protection.

In short, what I'm trying to say here is that for a person to gain access to the storage area where classified information is kept means that they've already agreed in writing on the prescribed methods and guidelines for the handling of such information.

To stuff it in your socks, walk out with it, and call it SLOPPY is to think that we were all born just yesterday. The public at large might believe this story with their Hollywood view of how "classified" information is handled, but anybody who has ever handled classified information at SECRET or above knows that in "real life" it's an entirely different story.

This is a plain and simple case. The man has essentially been caught stealing classified information, and the penalties prescribed for such offenses are known and on the "books".

I "think" Mr. Berger is in a real pickle. Think about it. He can either deal with the legal system at this point, or deal with what's happened to everybody else who was just getting ready to fink on William J. Clinton, and end up dead.

I'm going to guess that if our conservatives in power push this issue (and they SHOULD), that he'll opt for jail over having commonalities with Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and others.


62 posted on 07/21/2004 8:30:34 PM PDT by hiredhand
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Years ago, I was an aircraft commander in the Strategic Air Commmand......and accordingly, I dealt with my share of national "secrets"; i.e. highly classified data. I was nowhere NEAR the position of National Security Advisor, and I sure as HELL knew the rules/laws governing the use of classified information.

Bottom line: Sandy Berger is a bald-faced liar. He was deliberately removing classified information from a secured location. What well and truly pisses me off.........FACT.........is that you or I would be clamped in irons by now. This son of a bitch may very well walk strictly because he's a well known Democrat operative.

THAT.....my friends..........THAT absolutely infuriates me.

99 posted on 07/21/2004 8:43:54 PM PDT by RightOnline
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Does anyone know which building this occurred at? The main Archives in Washington, College Park or any other building?


123 posted on 07/21/2004 8:51:45 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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Purposeful evasion.

Sandy Berger committed a felony.

Janet Reno would claim, "no criminal intent."

Mr. Berger's attorney's advice to Mr. Berger is, "an honest mistake."

Amazingly, the public is led to believe that these terms are some of the legal provisions of the statutes on this matter.

No.

Purposeful evasion is criminal intent.

He should be charged, prosecuted, and thrown in the can in accordance with the proscribed punishment.

134 posted on 07/21/2004 8:54:32 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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