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Archive Employees Suspicious of Berger - They Were Watching Him
Drudge Report ^ | 7-21-04 | Drudge Report

Posted on 07/21/2004 7:59:22 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Archives Employees Suspicious of Berger... devised a coding system and marked the documents they knew Berger was interested in canvassing, and watched him carefully... employees determined that that draft and all four or five other versions of the millennium memo had disappeared from the files after Berger viewed them, WASH POST set to report, say sources... Developing...


TOPICS: Breaking News
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To: 1066AD
why should it take eight or nine months to decide ?

Billable hours. It's all about billable hours with the lawyers.

141 posted on 07/21/2004 8:57:10 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: Southack
I am convinced the S.O.B.s (reporters and etc.) are little more than DNC operatives anymore. I don't think they are smart enough to look at bottom lines, profit, ratings, or any of that anymore. They are blinded by their mission.

That being said, I would like nothing more than for you to be proved right, and me wrong. I truly mean that.

Nik
142 posted on 07/21/2004 8:57:29 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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To: nopardons

Yep. The WaPo is expected to spin, not report.


143 posted on 07/21/2004 8:57:52 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: Pukin Dog

Saw somewhere the archivists first notified Bruce Lindsey of all people.


144 posted on 07/21/2004 8:58:29 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: cyncooper; kcvl
Bergler leaked it alright, with a little help from his Lanny friends.

Connect the dots:

AP runs the story:
Tue Jul 20, 4:23 PM ET Clinton Aide Investigated on Terror Memos By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer Mr Solomon include many quotes from Berger's lawyer.

How did Soloman get the story? Here we have insight from Lanny Davis:

Thus, Davis called the reporter he deemed most fair, the AP's John Solomon, with documents suggesting that Clinton had made fund-raising calls from the White House residence. The leak occurred on July 3, 1997, so the story would get lost on the Fourth of July holiday.

So who told Lanny?

In fact, Davis operated under a cloak of deniability -- his supervisor in the counsel's office, Lanny Breuer, insisted that Davis keep him informed in general terms but didn't want to know the gory details of his leaking.

Lanny Breuer is the lawyer for...Sandy Berglar

What do you think? Plausible? Yes.

145 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:14 PM PDT by hobson
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To: geopyg
What is between the lines, is that if ANYONE on the Kerry campaign is proved to have known about the investigation, documents or ANYTHING related to this, Kerry is toast. Phone records are SO easy to get.
146 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:46 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Southack
Here is hoping you are right - (that the media cover this like watergate) -

I simply don't see it happening - I will be mildly shocked if this story makes the evening news once next week (on any of the big three networks).

But I do agree - once a story gets a certain level it blows up on its own - But the media will not let this get there - no way (IMO) - non-election year (maybe) - no way 3 moths before an election against the guy they want to win - I'll be shocked!

147 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:54 PM PDT by POA2
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To: jackbill

I currently work with classified and I can tell you that a lot of the documentation rules are no longer followed. According to DoD regs (my realm), every classified document above TS//CODEWORD must have it's destruction classified (when you shred it, write down what it was). Nowadays, with Intelink and everything primarily on softcopy this isn't really done anymore (unless it's a special access program). But we still have an amazingly low number of security incidences, with most being something as simple as accidentally butting a secret document in UNCLAS take-home paperwork or accidentally moving top secret data down to a secret only system. But if somebody were to smuggle out documents in their socks, MULTIPLE TIMES, they'd be toast.


148 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:06 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: McGavin999
If they deep six it then WE run with it and they really don't want that to happen. If WE run with it, God knows where it could lead and we won't be "sensitive" about timing.

Interestingly Anne Coulter on Scarborough tonight, during a discussion on the Berger affair, made the comment that the MSM still has not figured out that there is an Internet out there.

149 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:06 PM PDT by Tarheel (The Old North State - First in Flight)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
National Archives staff watched Berger through a glass door as he appeared to put pieces of paper in his jacket pocket.
150 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Pukin Dog

Here, let me put down my bottle of Jack and re-read what I wrote.....wait a minute....did I write that?? I must have been drinking.


151 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:37 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: AHerald
"They were only copies" is going to be the new "It's just about sex."

What is our authority for the claim that these were all copies and none were originals? Are we absolutely certain that no data (such as hand written notes on Draft copies) has been irretrievably lost?

Berger must have had some reason for destroying some of the documents that he took home when it would have been much easier to cover his tracks by simply turning them back in. He could then have claimed that he just needed to take them home to work on them and he might have had a case although a very weak one.

If he believed that he had the one and only copy of these documents then his actions would infer a motive - a straight cover-up based on the destruction of the incriminating evidence.

152 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:38 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

I remember that well. Who knew they were such a threat to National Security...cute little guys.


153 posted on 07/21/2004 9:01:03 PM PDT by HRoarke (F. John Kerry--Can you trust a man who picks his running mate from the back of the phone book?)
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To: 1066AD
Saw somewhere the archivists first notified Bruce Lindsey of all people.

Yeah, I laughed when I heard that. I would bet that when that call was made, the FBI was already listening.

154 posted on 07/21/2004 9:01:26 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: 1066AD
If they started investigating last fall, why do these things take so long ? Either he breached security regulations or he didn't, why should it take eight or nine months to decide ?

My understanding is the main visit to the Archives at issue (and there are several) was in October.

However, I don't believe the FBI came on the scene until January. That is not "last fall". And notice Lanny Breuer's deceitful "this was a year ago" spin he tried to haul out today.

Beware of defense and dem representations of the timeline.

155 posted on 07/21/2004 9:02:15 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Southack

Let's just see what the WaPo has to say about it when their report comes out. I won't hold my breath. The WaPo is just as much in bed with the DNC as the NYT. The WaPo didn't print as many stories about Abu Ghraib as the NYT did, but they gave it enough attention and a few miles.


156 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:11 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: 1066AD
"...the archivists first notified Bruce Lindsey of all people."

This has to worry the Democrats. Why? Because, if the documents were specially marked and he was being surveilled by Archive staff, one gets the impression that other law enforcement agencies were involved. If that's the case, the call to Lindsey makes sense in the context of a sting operation.

In other words, they called him to see who he would talk to and what he would say. That's got to worry the traitors on the Left.

157 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:27 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: hobson

The Post story is now on the net:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4189-2004Jul21.html

"Archives Staff Was Suspicious of Berger"

"Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m.

What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.

After Berger's previous visit, in September, Archives officials believed documents were missing. This time, they specially coded the papers to more easily tell whether some went missing, said government officials and legal sources familiar with the case. ..."


158 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:37 PM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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To: Pukin Dog

Imagine. Kerry hiring a guy under investigation for stealing intelligence documents, destroying some of them.

Berger was supposedly questioned in March. When did that moron hire him to be his international affairs guru?


159 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:38 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: cyncooper

And they were likely trying to see who Berger was going to pass the classified to. Looking for his handler. They would treat it as a espionage investigation.


160 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:56 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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