Trousergate: Theft of Papers Showing Al-Qaeda in US Under Clinton is HUGE

Rush Limbaugh ^ | 7-20-04 | Rush Limbaugh

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[Conservative Coulter Fan]

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[tang-soo]

I've posted this top a few other threads. Please ignore if you've seen it before ...

I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...

1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.

2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.

3) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.

4) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).

5) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.

6) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.

7) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.

8) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropriate markings (mentioned above) on the documents.

9) This material is frequently audited by internal security agents and is subject to "suprise" audits conducted by military, FBI or other external security personnel.

10) People given access to this type of information are briefed and attend classes on how to handle this material - ie. no excuses for "honest mistakes".

11) As the NSA for the clinton administration, I imagine Berger was personally responsible that this protocol was designed, implemented and enforced by his staff - at least in an appropriately managed administration. This would apply to government employees, officials, military personnel and civilians under contract and extended clearances issued by the DoD, DoE or other intel operations.

12) As such, ANYBODY who has worked in this environment and heard Mr. Berger's comments yesterday about being "sloppy" and "an honest mistake" knows beyond any doubt that he was not only lying, but this was a premeditated act.

13) I left the aerospace business(as an engineer) in 1993 so these comments are based upon the security world of that time. Only Lord knows how the clinton adm changed things during his 8 years.

That summarizes what I mentioned to Steve Cannon of WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, Oh) last night.

The latest word I have heard from this morning is that this material was classified "Code Word Access". Folks, if true, this is "Above Top Secret" ie. John Pollard type material.

So the question comes to mind, why would anybody do such a thing under conditions where he knew he stood a huge chance of being caught? The mission must have been extraordinary for such a risk. The presumption is that he wanted to alter or remove and destroy material that implicated either himself, or quite possibly mr. clinton. The fact that some of the material is "lost" implies that regardless of the consequences, the mission has been accomplished with his current situation collateral damage.

Webb Hubbell's infamous quote "I guess I'll have to roll over again for Hillary" comes to mind. Another example of the clinton whirlwind leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

coincident with Rush - perhaps on the ABC news from my news/chat station - I heard someone say that 'if you handled classified documents long enough then everyone took some inadvertantly'. Hah! Never.

'Everyone does it' is hardly mitigation.

[Guenevere]

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[Swanks]

Some interesting stuff: John Loftus on Bachelor last nite noted the documents Bergler was taking were in ref. to foreign policy under Clintoon and specifically the Balkins. Seems Clintoon had a clandestine policy to USE Al-Quada to balance the strength between the Serbs and the Albanians.

IOW; Clintoon worked WITH Al-Quada in 1997-1999 timeframe. Hardly something the Pervert-in-Chief would want raising to the surface in a 9-11 commission report. Nor Sandy Bergler; as architect of foreign policy.

And this from a Dem named John Loftus. (Don't shoot me; I'm the messenger)

[Grampa Dave]

Deputy AG Comey Hints at Big House for Berger, US Media Mum
To Grampa Dave | 07/21/2004 8:48:22 AM PDT sent





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Deputy AG Comey Hints at Big House for Berger, US Media Mum
NewsMax.com ^ | 7/21/04 | Carl Limbacher


Posted on 07/21/2004 8:26:19 AM PDT by kattracks



Deputy Attorney General James Comey raised the specter of a jail sentence yesterday for Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, if he's found guilty of removing top secret documents from the National Archives that were supposed to go to the 9/11 Commission.
Though Comey's comments were widely quoted, the U.S. press edited out his reference to a possible stint in the big house for Berger. A Lexis Nexis search found that only Agence France Press quoted the Deputy AG in full, including this key observation on the Berger security breach:

"It's our lifeblood to keep secrets," Comey told reporters in Washington. "All felonies in the federal system bring with them the promise of jail time, that's all I can say about that."

Comey left little doubt that Berger's so-called "sloppiness" was more likely a serious crime.

"It is against the law for anyone to intentionally mishandle classified information, either by taking it to give to somebody else, or by mishandling in a way that is outside the regulations of government information.".

In case anybody missed the point, the U.S.'s number two lawman added: "The federal system is a very tough system. . . We take issues of classified information very, very seriously."

Now wonder venues like CBS News, which reported Tuesday night the Berger would almost certainly not be charged with criminal wrongdoing, decided not to cover Comey's full comments.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Well, Yossef Bodansky wrote of Clinton and his administration cutting a deal with al-Qaeda allowing them to overthrow the Egyptian Government that resulted in terrorists massacring 70 westerners. The KLA was a faction of al-Qaeda trained in Afghanistan in camps run by Bin Laden. Bill Clinton gave them his backing and went to war for them based on this 100,000 in mass graves that were never found.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Sure, there's no big deal, it is perfectly acceptablefor a Clintonista to shove documents down his pants. Where are the daily front page stories on this!!

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[Grampa Dave]

CCF, your thread now has the official Soxgate keyword added to the keyword section right below your thread.

Go to that section and click the keyword "Soxgate". Then you will see your great thread with all of the other great threads covering Soxgate!

[Paul Atreides]

I have a new name for Sandy Burglar: Winona Berger, after Winona Ryder.

[Zhangliqun]

Okay I'm confused. Did he swipe the photocopies or the originals? If it was just the photocopies, then aren't the originals still there and can't we look at them now?

[jnarcus]

What aggravates me is that Berger ( and all the inline spouters) say he went through "thousands of pages" of documents over several days...well hell he must just be turning those hings then cause he ain't reading them and he ain't evaluating them....most reading rooms aren't available more than 8 hours a day( and I doubt he would have put in over time)... IF he worked a solid 8 hrs continuous on each day ( and I doubt that) then 8*60= 480 minutes* 5 days=2400. So old Sandy boy must have lookede at a page per minute in order to view thousands of documents...What a load of crap

[Kozak]

Yup. Wonder what the Toons have on Berger to get him risk the slammer, and loose his shot at Sec of State ( in the PLEASE GOD FORBID ) Kerry admin. Love hwo Clinton knew about the investigation but Clueless Kerry learned it on the news yesterday.

[jellybean]

This is the new Sandy Berger filing system:

Shirt=Classified
Pants=Secret
Socks=Top Secret

Reg, this would make a great graphic!

[gov_bean_ counter]

He tooked the Evelyn Wood spead reading course. It im proved his comprehension im eas ur a bly. (Cheech and Chong from farther back than I care to say)

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Thanks for the links..