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Berger on the grill
TownHall.com ^ | Wednesday, July 20, 2004 | by Tony Blankley

Posted on 07/21/2004 12:25:33 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 07/21/2004 12:25:33 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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He may be guilty of nothing more than poor judgment but people who display poor judgment are exactly the people we don't want to see entrusted with our national security.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 12:32:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Guilty of poor judgement? Honest Mistake?

Gee, its the incompetence defense! And its easy to swallow on the surface, since the Clinton regime was saturated with grifting sleazy "Friends of Bill" whose lasting legacy is not one of meritious public service, but is one of child snatching, diversinary bombing of asprin factories, and jailhouse bound thugs.

But, lifting secret documents from a room from which none can be removed? Naah, its no mistake.


3 posted on 07/21/2004 12:47:05 AM PDT by Robert Taylor
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To: goldstategop

If he was actually stuffing things into his pants and/or socks he is guilty of far more than "poor judgment".

If there is video of this, he's so done.


4 posted on 07/21/2004 12:52:46 AM PDT by DB (©)
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"you scream like a stallion in heat"

My guess is Tony B. didn't grow up on a farm.

5 posted on 07/21/2004 1:03:27 AM PDT by James Mabry (Please buy Guns for your kids and teach them to hate socialists/progressives.)
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"Naah, its no mistake."

Aw, have a heart, RT. The wind came through the window and blew papers off the table and into Sandy's socks and bvd's. Of course, he didn't notice since he's got more important things on his mind.

6 posted on 07/21/2004 1:12:14 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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So far it seems that the main documents missing are the drafts for the after-action report written by Richard Clarke and later "refined" by the Clinton Administration. I am curious as to why Berger specifically chose to pocket and totally lose those documents. Hmmm...are there signficant differences in conclusion and/or emphasis between the drafts and the final version of the report that Clarke and the Clinton Administration put out? Inquiring minds want to know...Berger doesn't seem like the type of person to just simply make a rash decision and shove questionable documents in his pants, socks, and briefcase. I am sure that he probably deliberated such options prior to going to the National Archives annex in Maryland.

Also, I find it curious that every news source thus far have given out the information that it is "believed" that copies of the draft still exist at the National Archives. Are they getting this information directly from Archives personnel? If so, I think that someone is bluffing. With classified documents, they are either there or not. Especially by this point in time, that information should be confirmed by now. I think that copies of the drafts do not actually exist. Did Berger know this? Inquiring minds want to know...(I know I stated this on another thread)


7 posted on 07/21/2004 1:44:03 AM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: DB
If there is video of this, he's so done.

On another thread someone though there was video !

8 posted on 07/21/2004 2:01:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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"On another thread someone though there was video !"

The National Archives states that they use surveillance cameras. (or words to that effect)

"Research Room Rules

Paper and pencils are provided to researchers. Researchers may bring approved loose paper research notes, hand-held wallets and/or coin purses into research rooms, but those items are subject to inspection when researchers enter or leave the research complex.

Researchers may not bring enclosures such as briefcases, boxes, satchels, valises, purses, or other large containers into the research rooms. Lockers are available for which quarter is required that is refunded when the locker key is returned. The lockers are emptied nightly. Rules for Using Historical Records in the National Archives [GIL 57], available through Fax-on-Demand or by calling the general reference number, gives additional research room rules.

Security
Electronic surveillance is in use.
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9 posted on 07/21/2004 2:33:55 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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Where are those ever-indignant Jersey Girls on this?
10 posted on 07/21/2004 2:52:00 AM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)
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Where are those ever-indignant Jersey Girls on this?
11 posted on 07/21/2004 2:52:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)
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I'm sick and tired of Democrats breaking the law and getting away with it. Republicans should grow spines and demand that he be charged.


12 posted on 07/21/2004 3:41:43 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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"I'm sick and tired of Democrats breaking the law and getting away with it. Republicans should grow spines and demand that he be charged."

That will be the day! Republicans in DC are a bunch of cowards. I too am tired of seeing the Dems get away with such things and no one does a thing. Whimps!
13 posted on 07/21/2004 3:47:24 AM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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Whimps? Quislings.


14 posted on 07/21/2004 3:50:25 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: DB
If he was actually stuffing things into his pants and/or socks he is guilty of far more than "poor judgment".

well, thats what I was thinking - a "mistake" is spilling a coke on them and wiping them off and inadvertantly collecting all the papers and mistakenly placing them in your case. Stuffing them in your shorts and socks is a conscious effort to evade discovery and decieve those charged with oversight of the documents.

It sounds though, as if everyone knew stuff was disappearing and they numbered the docs -

Even more frustrating though will be watching the repubs totallydrop this huge huge issue after a few days - only to be forgotten

.......which makes them complicit IMO

Bush has made it clear he wouldnt pursue Clintons nonsense from the onset - I cant imagine that attitude will change

15 posted on 07/21/2004 4:23:39 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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I am hearing a tone from all pub commentators on this issue that sounds like a memo went out to softpedal, underplay,etc comments of accusation.

I am thinking of Senators stepping up to the cameras yesterday, Bush campaign official this morning on the radio with Steve Malzberg, and this article by Tony Blankley.

Are you reading/hearing this same theme, JH?


16 posted on 07/21/2004 5:57:20 AM PDT by maica (Hitlary says; "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"...)
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He may be guilty of nothing more than poor judgment but people who display poor judgment are exactly the people we don't want to see entrusted with our national security.

Exactly! And FatBerger should be grilled and inadvertently indicted!
17 posted on 07/21/2004 7:00:37 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: James Mabry
"you scream like a stallion in heat"

Or maybe Blankley is referring to Ahnold's "girlie men" label? LOL
nawwwwwwww, I don't think so either...definitely a mis-characterization.
18 posted on 07/21/2004 7:08:25 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: James Mabry
My guess is Tony B. didn't grow up on a farm.

I've heard some Siamese cats scream while in heat, but they were all female.

19 posted on 07/21/2004 7:16:59 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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I don't think he's getting away with much. His career is already in ruins, and Kerry has now lost all of his foreign policy advisors except for Michael Moore.


20 posted on 07/21/2004 7:19:46 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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