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SENATE REPUBLICANS ACCUSE JOHN KERRY OF USING CLASSIFIED INFO STOLEN BY SANDY BERGER
ABC News- 'Noted Now' Latest Political Breaking News ^ | 7/20/04

Posted on 07/20/2004 1:11:47 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

SEN. SAXBY CHAMBLISS: 'Reportedly these documents are related to homeland security and then suddenly we see the Kerry campaign came forward with what may have been illegal documents. This is sensitive stuff and was a significant breach of security...Kerry knows better than to use these documents,' Chambliss says in a press conference.

SEN. GORDON SMITH: 'There is a curious connection between the removal of these documents and the Kerry press conference on port security..It's disappointing what people might do as they try and take the President down.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: kerroristtreason; sandyberger; sandyburglar; soxgate; trousergate
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To: Grampa Dave

Yeah, Fox had it just about ahout an hour ago.


161 posted on 07/20/2004 1:49:44 PM PDT by Liz
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To: capydick

Rules and laws are for Republicans; Democrats answer only to a much higher power (Trial Lawyers, NEA, etc). There will be no legal action taken against Berger, much less Kerry.


162 posted on 07/20/2004 1:50:27 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's going to be hard to top that one!


163 posted on 07/20/2004 1:50:51 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Lurking in Kansas
This is getting better by the hour. Has Kerry been seen in public today??

Nah, he's getting a fresh dose of his Botox in preparation of the cameras at the DNC convention.

164 posted on 07/20/2004 1:51:04 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: Petronski; Wolfstar; Fedora

Re#101

that is a press release of the same day, for sure.

On the one hand, I don't see anything but generic comments

But on the other, it doesn't exist on the Kerry website anymore, which sure is strange.


165 posted on 07/20/2004 1:51:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Puddleglum
Is the point is that Kerry cribbed his "plan" from a prior plan drafted but never implemented under Clinton? And that this is the plan Sandy snuck out in his socks, pants, or other bit of clothing?

That could be part of it.

Boy, I'd give a lot to see the draft Berger removed, to check it against Kerry's text.

166 posted on 07/20/2004 1:51:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: Puddleglum
"(Apologies - I feel slow on the draw this afternoon.)"

You're not slow - it's a good question. It's not clear to me what the smoking gun is between those Kerry links and the missing/stolen documents. What do we think we've proven here?
167 posted on 07/20/2004 1:51:45 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Liz

Sean was just talking about this.
168 posted on 07/20/2004 1:51:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Redleg Duke

***I smell Hitlery's fingerprints all over this one. She will step forward by acclamation at the convention...just watch.***

The only thing that makes me feel a bit better about this is that the lib newsies are covering for Kerry. I think if Hitlery was behind this, they would come down hard on him.


169 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:05 PM PDT by kitkat ("The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay))
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To: rintense
As the FBI grills Berger...

Make mine medium rare.

170 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:06 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If we beat them bad enough, they can't cheat" - Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Petronski

omg, those people are SO stupid. The only thing he did wrong was get caught? What morons.


171 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:20 PM PDT by knak
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To: Steve_Seattle
I hope they have some basis for suggesting the info got to the Kerry campaign.

When Fox reported this this morning, they said the Republicans were pointing to a specific meeting Kerry had with reporters in February (another poster said they heard the date Feb 27). I think they have very specific information they are talking about. Anyone following our intrepid Republicans knows they don't go making baseless charges. Usually we're treated to "let's see what the investigation finds". I think they do have a basis for raising this concern.

172 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:29 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Petronski; .30Carbine

Besides the steps toward deniability, any thoughts on why they would try to delete this or the significance of any of these items? They look fairly generic. The attempted coverup was a great find by .30Carbine. I wonder when the link went down.


173 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:39 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (Kerry and Edwards = Flip and Flop)
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To: ZGuy
So is Hillary going to step in now to replace Kerry and save the day?

I don't think so. This hits too close to the Clintons.

I think this sets up the BushCheney 04 Victory and leaves Hillary in the drivers seat till 08.

174 posted on 07/20/2004 1:52:52 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Puddleglum
The two Republican senators are implying that the press release I posted in 101 had the benefit of the secret documents SANDY BERGER STOLE from the 9/11 secure room.

In other words, Berger burgles, passes it to Kerry, and Kerry exploits it by politicizing port security (in the press release in 101).

.30Carbine discovered that someone at Kerry04 had scrubbed evidence of this presumed exploitation from the Kerry website today, the day the Senators made their oblique accusation. This would indicate a sense of guilt at Kerry04.

175 posted on 07/20/2004 1:53:00 PM PDT by Petronski (Nobody "inadvertently" takes sensitive docs in their pants.)
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To: Brilliant
Kerry's Watergate. It's prison stipes for Berger and Kerry!

Wouldn't that be soooo cool?!?!?!?!!??

176 posted on 07/20/2004 1:53:10 PM PDT by pctech
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To: dartuser

I told my son this weekend that anytime he sees something negative about Kerry between now and the election - Think Hillary first!


177 posted on 07/20/2004 1:53:30 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: bondjamesbond
This is a takedown move by Hillary!

Always ask why this, why now? Who released this info? Who does it benefit?

The DNC nomination is not set in stone until next week. Hillary is aging not too gracefully and will really look rough by 2008. Even if Kerry is nominee, it is to her advantage for there not to be a Dem incumbent in 2008

The RNC has no gain in releasing this now. The investigation has been going on since Oct. There was no expiration date on this scoop.

Who leaked this any way? This was not on any radar until last night. Who broke it first? (Beside FR!)

Sandy B. is loyal is Shillary, as are all the Clintonistas. The Keeper of the Files has command over them all. Taking these papers was stupid, and probably a setup.

This just doen't pass the smell test.

178 posted on 07/20/2004 1:53:50 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: Political Junkie Too; beyond the sea
Hey Sandy. Are those documents in your pants or are you just glad to see me?

We now have a new definition for "taking a leak."

I toyed with the idea earlier about suggesting it was a new definition of filling your pants.

179 posted on 07/20/2004 1:54:18 PM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Petronski

Gracias - my brain is chugging to keep up with the posts! I appreciate the explanation.


180 posted on 07/20/2004 1:54:32 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Kerry sez life begins at conception, yet he supports abortion. Is he evil, lying, or insane?)
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