Posted on 07/20/2004 8:57:08 AM PDT by buzzyboop
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Lawmaker wants smoke-free Pa. bars and restaurants
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
An influential state senator is proposing to extend smoking bans into Pennsylvania’s bars and restaurants. Stewart Greenleaf, R-Montgomery County, today announced he would push for legislation that would follow a pattern set by seven other states, including California and New York. A press release from Greenleaf said business is actually up in New York City bars and restaurants. In Florida, where smoking is banned in restaurants but not bars, restaurant business increased, Greenleaf said. __________________________________________ More details in tomorrow’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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Ping!
Next battle they will lose is children in cars followed by smoking at home around children.
Business in Bars has dropped by nearly 50% in New York.
"Too bad smokers couldn't adopt the a little courtesy they'd still be smoking in public but alas they won't because they have no clue how bad their habit affects others. "
There was a little known study about 'second hand smoke that didn't quite make it to the mainstream news.
"UK Sunday Telegraph...
Passive Smoking Doesn't Cause Cancer - Official
Headline: Passive Smoking Doesn't Cause Cancer - Official
Byline: Victoria MacDonald, Health Correspondent
Dateline: March 8, 1998
The world's leading health organisation has withheld from publication a study which shows that not only might there be no link between passive smoking and lung cancer but that it could even have a protective effect. The astounding results are set to throw wide open the debate on passive smoking health risks.
The World Health Organisation, which commissioned the 12-centre, seven-country European study has failed to make the findings public, and has instead produced only a summary of the results in an internal report. Despite repeated approaches, nobody at the WHO headquarters in Geneva would comment on the findings last week.
The findings are certain to be an embarrassment to the WHO, which has spent years and vast sums on anti-smoking and anti-tobacco campaigns. The study is one of the largest ever to look at the link between passive smoking - inhaling other people's smoke - and lung cancer, and had been eagerly awaited by medical experts and campaigning groups. Yet the scientists have found that there was no statistical evidence that passive smoking caused lung cancer.
The research compared 650 lung cancer patients with 1,542 healthy people. It looked at people who were married to smokers, worked with smokers, both worked and were married to smokers, and those who grew up with smokers. The results are consistent with there being no additional risk for a person living or working with a smoker and could be consistent with passive smoke having a protective effect against lung cancer.
The summary, seen by The Sunday Telegraph, also states: "There was no association between lung cancer risk and ETS exposure during childhood." A spokesman for Action on Smoking and Health said the findings "seem rather surprising given the evidence from other major reviews on the subject which have shown a clear association between passive smoking and a number of diseases."
Dr Chris Proctor, head of science for BAT Industries, the tobacco group, said the findings had to be taken seriously. "If this study cannot find any statistically valid risk you have to ask if there can be any risk at all. "It confirms what we and many other scientists have long believed, that while smoking in public may be annoying to some non-smokers, the science does not show that being around a smoker is a lung-cancer risk."
Shortly after this story ran it mysteriously 'disappeared' from the Telegraph's website.
I seriously doubt it will get very far now that the slots legislation has passed. Legislators know that one of the biggest draws they will get to the slots parlors will be marketting the smokers who don't like Delaware's smoking ban. 4 of the 14 venues will be within driving distance of Delaware park, which draws most of its base from Pennsylvania right now.
Double digit declines in slots revenue have continued in Delaware since the ban....while they have levelled out to a point, they never returned to the double digit annual increases from prior to the ban.
I have it on very good authority that the majority of employees of the slots venues in Delaware have already been inquiring for positions for the new places in PA. also advertising to smokers is going to be one of their primary marketting angles.
And when Maryland passes their slots next year, the competition is going to be even fiercer.
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
The tide is turning on the antis because folks are waking up to the lies.
What is a public place? It's a place where a law enforcement officer can go without requiring a search warrant or an invitation from the property owner. Each business can refuse access to their premise for any reason or no reason. A business could refuse access to people without shoes, refuse access to drug dealers, refuse access to politicians and bureaucrats and refuse access to any person.
As it is, most businesses invite almost every person into their property. But no person, not even law enforcement officers have a right to trespass -- at minimum they need an invitation. Even when a business extends an invitation the recipient is by no means required to gain access to the business. No business forces any person they extend an invitation to, to enter their business property.
It's not over yet.
Well put.
No one gives a crap if SHs causes cancer. People simply don't want to smell it anymore.
Not by a long shot!!!!!!!!!
God,the way it's going the entire Northeast will be smoke-free,with the exception of New Hampshire,the "Live Free or Die" state.
You folks are in such denial.
Anywhere zoning laws allows the government to impose requirements on owners in order to open for business.
Said the Black Knight. Its merely a flesh wound.
Of course it did............can't embarrass WHO can they?
The abstract for the study has also seemed to have conveniently disappeared.
New Hampshire is over run with flat landers. The bans are not far behind.
So people use lies and junk science to scare the average person on the street into thinking that SHS DOES cause a multitude of diseases and cancers so that they will vote to ban smoking anywhere, anytime, in any manner.
Doesn't matter that it's lies and junk science as long as you don't have to smell tobacco smoke, huh.
Actually it is you and those like you who are in denial.
The lies about the so-called dangers of SHS are being exposed to a growing audience, and just because "it smells bad" is not going to cut it as a reason to infringe on property rights.
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