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AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos [Sandy Berger is the focus of a criminal investigation]
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Posted on 07/19/2004 5:07:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Dog

"it will dominate the internet"

It will dominate comedy too. The pants. Expect Clinton-pants jokes galore.


461 posted on 07/19/2004 6:43:43 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: windchime; theophilusscribe

It also made the New York Times.


462 posted on 07/19/2004 6:44:38 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: OXENinFLA
Berger was allowed to take handwritten notes but also knew that taking his own notes out of the secure reading room was a "technical violation of Archive procedures, but it is not all clear to us this represents a violation of the law," Breuer said.
463 posted on 07/19/2004 6:44:40 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: windchime
WOW!! Thanks. This is . . . amazing!!

"To win the primary, the newcomer overcame the election eve arrest of his brother, Cameron, and campaign field director Thomas J. Vallely, both then 22, in the basement of a Lowell building that housed the headquarters of Kerry and another Democratic contender, state Representative Anthony R. DiFruscia of Lawrence. It was almost 2 a.m. - 30 hours before the polls opened - when the two were arrested on charges of breaking and entering with intent to commit larceny. That day's Sun blared a memorable, double-deck headline: "Kerry brother arrested in Lowell `Watergate."' DiFruscia, getting some extra ink in the campaign's waning hours, had drawn the parallel to the break-in at Democratic headquarters in Washington three months earlier. The Kerry camp declared it a setup, saying that the two responded to an anonymous phone call, minutes earlier, threatening to cut the campaign's 36 phone lines on the day before its get-out-the-vote effort. Lowell Police arrested the pair in an area near the trunk line for all of the building's phones. . . .

464 posted on 07/19/2004 6:44:41 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Guess he inadvertently had those other notes 'fall' into his pants.

Hey, Sandy! Are those classified documents in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?

465 posted on 07/19/2004 6:44:46 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; snooker

"Are they sure these are the only docs that Berger grabbed? Could there be anything else missing they either don't know or aren't talking about?"

Maybe not, but maybe copies of all docs were made...or maybe not all of them, like the "notes" - what's that, a yellow pad?


466 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:15 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Liz
So the figging a**h**e stuffs them in his pants.... like he's a cheap crook shoplifting underwear at Wal-Mart.

Liz thanks for the laugh...imagine this visual..

467 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:22 PM PDT by Dog
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To: True Capitalist
Joe Wilson was a no show with Jim Lehrer on The News Hour tonight. Lehrer was plugging the appearance at the top of the show, but nothing happened.

Here are the quotes I found most interesting in the Berger article:

"...to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Berger said in a statement to the AP.
We've listened to Clinton-speak long enough to know: IF HE STOLE THE DOCS AND THE COMMISSION DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM...THEY COULDN'T REQUEST THEM!!!

And the last line in the article:

The officials said the missing documents ...included...identification of America's terror vulnerabilities at airports to sea ports.
Perhaps the "critical assessments" pointed out airport security weaknesses (Boston?). Berger would have been reading the reports with the benefit of knowing what happened on 9/11 and, maybe, the reports were damning in what they didn't do in 1999 to plug the holes.
468 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:22 PM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Not when you are sending them out of the building and leaving them open for viewing. Likely that they come from the 'vault' through the copier and then sign out. Too much of a chance you loose something.

They come back in through check in and then through the shredder. These are archive files, not working copies.

The security mechanism is likely what tipped the FBI off in the first place. Audit trails. But we'll see.

469 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:32 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Lancey Howard
Any prayer that any of this gets mentioned on Nightline?

Fat chance. That's why liberals hate Fox News. Without them we would never know half of what goes on with Democrat crooks and liars.

470 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Shermy

Pants jokes? You read my mind :)


471 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:50 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: freekitty

im still p o-ed at the trashing of the white house. and very p o-ed that kissy face bush gave them a pass on it. grrrr!!


472 posted on 07/19/2004 6:45:53 PM PDT by eleven_eleven (canadia = land of nothing)
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To: MJY1288

No doubt the Pantload was in cahoots with the Unzipped One.


473 posted on 07/19/2004 6:46:46 PM PDT by Liz
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To: OldFriend

I've been in one of these secure rooms. One guarded access route only..12 x 15 room, a single long table, six cameras with a guy observing from another room. Only a pencil and small pad for notes allowed. How the heck did he get away with it? Sure leads right back to Bubba.


474 posted on 07/19/2004 6:47:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: hattend

What do you bet is shows they were in on the Oil For Food Scandal?


475 posted on 07/19/2004 6:47:20 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: MJY1288

Well it only took 10 secs in on the thread to find that...didnt spend too much time there for sure!!! ;-)


476 posted on 07/19/2004 6:47:34 PM PDT by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Can you call your senators for me . Mine are John Kerry and Ted Kennedy.
I am so screwed!


477 posted on 07/19/2004 6:47:47 PM PDT by Holicheese (Kerry is a gutless wonder. Pawn of Big Ketchup)
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To: chiller

"Do we think the Clintoons or the Kerry's may be behind this. What motivated Berger to risk his career, reputation, etc.
The exact timing of this theft, and the discovery of same would help explain the motivation."


What comes to my mind was that day in the 911 hearing when John Ashcroft exposed the Gorelick "wall", and suggested there was more where that came from.

I do not believe that Berger ever expected to get caught and it is telling that this event is months old and nobody leaked it.

Didn't Berger attend the Clinton/algore session with the 911 commission?


478 posted on 07/19/2004 6:48:24 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: McGavin999
"Would you like to take a stab at explaining to me how someone doesn't realize they've taken a leather portfolio? And two or three copies of a report?"

How the hell does someone like this get to be a National Security Advisor?

I've been to the National Archives. You are told ahead of time what you can do and can't do with the documents you are reading. The main rule you are told is that no original documents are allowed to leave the room. In Berger's case, I'm sure he was advised beforehand of note taking, copying, etc. He wasn't just put in a room and allowed to read these documents. He was thoroughly instructed on what he could and couldn't do. And with these items being classified documents, I'm sure the instructions to the readers were that much more intense.

479 posted on 07/19/2004 6:48:27 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: StriperSniper

I am sure they can be reproduced. Berger to Levenworth.


480 posted on 07/19/2004 6:48:43 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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