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AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos [Sandy Berger is the focus of a criminal investigation]
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Posted on 07/19/2004 5:07:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver
I just thought of something REALLY off the wall here - remember just after 9/11 when Clinton said he was disappointed that it did not happen on his watch?

Well, what if he saw this Millennium report that said Al Queda was already in the country, ready to attack, and he did NOTHING in hopes that they would attack on HIS watch and add to his "legacy"?

1,881 posted on 07/20/2004 3:24:28 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: NCjim

OKC too.


1,882 posted on 07/20/2004 3:26:20 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Grampa Dave
The DemoRats are without doubt, the party of treason.
I agree, the whole bunch should be hung.


1,883 posted on 07/20/2004 3:33:55 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

Charge them with treason.

Try them!

Find them guilty!

Hang them outside the DNC and the UN and leave their bodies to rot there until after the November elections as a strong warning to other rats.


1,884 posted on 07/20/2004 3:37:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Soxgate, the Rat document theft that makes Watergate look like kindergarden kickball.)
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To: kcvl
"When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few document that I apparently had accidentally discarded," he said.

Right, accidentally discarded. Since the documents were in the National Archives they were not important?

Sheesh....

1,885 posted on 07/20/2004 3:59:25 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Sub-Driver

With all the money Kerry has, why would Berger accept no pay for advising unless he was actually getting paid under the table for getting the info to Kerry?


1,886 posted on 07/20/2004 4:03:15 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: Wallaby
And the American people will get the same results.

Squat.

1,887 posted on 07/20/2004 4:14:32 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Grampa Dave


SANDY BERGER:

Theft of classified documents.
Obstruction of justice.
Tampering with evidence.
Interfering with an investigation.
1,888 posted on 07/20/2004 4:17:22 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

Those are a few. What would be interesting is if the FBI was smart enough to get a phone tap approved. And tapped his phone the day they searched his house. I would like to know who he called that evening.....


1,889 posted on 07/20/2004 4:30:26 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: NCjim

Dreams of FDR, ie, 4 terms as president while faking a war on terrorism would not shock most of us re the Clintoon


1,890 posted on 07/20/2004 4:34:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Soxgate, the Rat document theft that makes Watergate look like kindergarden kickball.)
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To: Sub-Driver
You can bet, like an iceberg, there is a lot we'll never see or hear.
No doubt, there are plenty of other Dems involved.
1,891 posted on 07/20/2004 4:35:21 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

The Dem Spin.

1. "It was inadvertent."
No way. It happened multiple times, he was stuffing them in his pants, and he destroyed some of them.

2. "There are copies of all of these documents, so what's the harm?"
I've followed this very closely and even Berger's lawyer HAS NOT said this...only the political spinners have said it. They have no way of knowing since we don't know what documents were removed.

3. "The commision got the memo, so in the end there was no effort to hide information."
Note they say the commision got "the memo". But, according to news reports, Berger isn't accused of removing "the memo". He removed multiple DRAFTS Clarke wrote before the final memo. Each draft would have had different wording and emphasis. The commision had no way of knowing whether one or another draft existed...except is Berger told them.

4. They are also muddying the water on whether Berger was allowed to take out notes he made while reviewing the documents. He wasn't. But the Dems are happy to give the impression there was nothing wrong with his doing this.

I'm sure there's more. Who can keep up with the Dems and their spin machine? We should start a new thread devoted specifically to shooting down the spinners.


1,892 posted on 07/20/2004 5:11:02 PM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: Grampa Dave
Just got home.....lots of posts....
If they know he stuffed them in his socks and pant legs, are the photos?

Why did they allow him to do this repeatedly? (unless they were setting him up to disclose/track who he was working for....no brainer IMO)

Is the reason he's talking now, because he has come up with a plea bargain and is willing to testify against others.....?

DO we have any of the answers?
1,893 posted on 07/20/2004 5:14:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: OXENinFLA

Hey! He was just preparing legal "BRIEFS."</sarcasm


1,894 posted on 07/20/2004 5:17:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Shermy

So Berger was looking over intelligence from 1999.

Joe Wilson, at the suggestion of Valerie Plame, was sent to Niger in 1999...


1,895 posted on 07/20/2004 5:20:45 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: hoosiermama

No, we don't have answers to those questions.

Here's the timeline laid out by Jim Angle on Fox News tonight:

1. Berger reviewed docs. Sometime later, archive personnel realize some docs are missing and they call Bruce Lyndsey.

2. Berger returns docs, but THEY ARE DIFFERENT DOCS than the ones the archives had noticed. They begin carefully numbering the docs he's given.

3. Berger continues to visit the archives and they discover he takes more documents. They contact the FBI.

That's how Jim described it.

[BTW, Berger isn't talking...his lawyer is. And only because the story leaked. Berger hasn't even been questioned by the FBI yet...not a good sign for him.]


1,896 posted on 07/20/2004 5:26:49 PM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: Timeout

My point is why is the attorney admitting to anything, unless there has been some kind of plea agreement made....Berger was filmed/caught in the act?

Most attorney would admit nothing. "innocent until prover quilty....etc" and advise their clients to plead the 5th,

Why volunteer information, unless you already have an agreement...."I'll admit it, take a lighter sentence, in exchange for the "BIG" fish....or fishes.....or hillbillies....or???


1,897 posted on 07/20/2004 5:33:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Sub-Driver

I'm a bit confused. Are the original documents still intact or did he shred them for good??


1,898 posted on 07/20/2004 5:33:44 PM PDT by hardcoreinlove
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To: hardcoreinlove

Some are still missing. He claims he doesn't know what he did with them.


1,899 posted on 07/20/2004 5:37:20 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
"More evidence that the Clinton Admin NEVER took US national security seriously."

I think this is the real story, unless we find out more. That is, the Clinton Administration treated United States national security and terrorist threats with ill regard as evidenced by the former Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger's treatment of the classified documents.
1,900 posted on 07/20/2004 5:40:25 PM PDT by johnwayne (I)
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