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Calif. Gov. not sorry for ‘girlie men’ remark
MSNBC ^ | July 19, 2004

Posted on 07/19/2004 11:26:06 AM PDT by traumer

Democrats blast Schwarzenegger for mocking lawmakers

Democrats aren’t amused by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s use of the mocking term “girlie men” to describe some lawmakers, although a spokesman for the governor said no apology would be forthcoming.

Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests. Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

“If they don’t have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, ’I don’t want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don’t have the guts, I call them girlie men,” Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.

The governor lifted the term from a long-running “Saturday Night Live” skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don’t meet their standards of physical perfection.

Democrats said Schwarzenegger’s remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to “blatant homophobia.”

Tune in to MSNBC for discussions on this question throughout the day and to hear some of your e-mails on air.

It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That’s very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership,” said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

Making a point? Schwarzenegger’s criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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To: traumer

Now Arnold's really done it -- he's irritated Zelda from the Dobie Gillis show!


41 posted on 07/19/2004 12:40:15 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: feinswinesuksass
Franz: Hello! We're back!

Hans: I am Hans.

Franz: And I am Franz.

Together: And we just want to.. Pump.. [clap] ..you up!

Hans: Alright. But before we can pump you up tonight, we have to answer a piece of viewer mail.

Franz: Ya. Ya. This is a letter we received from a Bill Tompkins. I'll only read an excerpt, so I don't go into his loser details. "Dear Hans & Franz: I have recently seen your.. mo-.. mo-"

Hans: Moronic.

Franz: "..Your moronic show, and have wondered why you don't open your own gym. Maybe you are too stupid." [ crumples letter ] You know, maybe you thought this letter would make us angry; but it only makes us sad.

Hans: Really, ya. We are sad, you know, because anyone who calls us "stupid" is really just jealous. Because their girlfriend looks at us, then looks at him, and realzies she's cuddling up with a little girly-man!

Franz: Ya. Ya, girly-man. Hear me now and believe me later - but don't think about it ever, because, if you try to think, you might cause a flabulance!

Hans: Ya!

Franz: Poor little girly-man, alone in his girly-house!

Hans: Sorry, Mr. Girly-Man, but here's a treat for your girlfriend!

[ Hans & Franz flex their muscles egotistically ]

Hans: Alright.

Franz: Oh, and thank you so much for the letter. [ put crumpled letter in his mouth and swallows ]

Hans: Ya! Ya, don't think for a minute he's not eating it, because beleive me he is!

Franz: That was one delicious piece of girly-man.

Hans: Ya! You know, we're not here to eat. We're here to..

Together: Pump.. [ clap ] ..you up!

Franz: Oh, and by the way, we'd like to take this time to announce the opening of our new gym in Wayne, New Jersey.

Hans: That's right. Ya! It's called the Pumpatorium! Ya! And soon you will meet Victor. He manages our new gym.

Franz: Ya, you know, because we don't have time to babysit you losers. But believe me, we have trained him well.

Hans: Ya! And he's one tough biscuit, believe me! Ya, come on out here, Victor!

Franz: Victor, come on out!

[ Victor runs onto the set ]

Victor: Hey, Hans! How you doing, Franz?

Franz: Yes! do you ever show pity on those flabby losers?

Victor: No! These losers, they need discipline! They're fat, lazy pigs, who should be only dead! You hear me? Dead! Dead! Dead!

Hans: Ya! Ya! Alright. Interesting. Now, tell us, Victor, what would you do with a girly-man who wrote a baby letter?

Victor: Here me now, and here me now, girly-man! Don't be thinking I can't come to your house, and pummel your head with a 2x4 and knock some sense into your fat, lazy lard-filled ass! You should be dead! You hear me! Dead, dead, dead, dead!!

[ Hans & Franz subdue Victor ]

Hans: Alright. Alright.

Franz: Enough talk.

Together: We're not here to talk. We're here to pump.. [ clap ] ..you up!

Hans: Alright, Victor. Alright, thanks for coming down, Victor.

Victor: Okay, I'll see you guys later. Oh, by the way. Your cousin Arnold Schwartzenegger came by today.

Hans: Oh, don't-don't-don't be joking us.

Franz: Ya. You'd better not be pulling my rock-hard leg.

Victor: He did! He said he might drop by. Alright, he might see your show. Okay, see you later! [ exits set ]

Franz: Arnold?

Hans: Coming here?

Franz: Today?

Hans: Today? Oh..

Franz: Oh..

Hans: Oh, I don't believe this!

Franz: We are not properly pumped up!

[ Hans & Franz desperately start flexing and working out their muscles ]

Hans: I don't believe this! Oh no, I can't believe it!

[ Arnold Schwartzenegger enters the set, his pecs bouncing in rhythm ]

Arnold Schwartzenegger: Hello, hello. I am back!

Hans: Oh, Arnold, I can't believe how properly pumped up you really are!

Franz: Ya! You are the embodiment of perfect pumpitude!

Arnold Schwartzenegger: No, no, no.. relax, fellows, relax.

Hans: Hey, Arnold, look at this! [ flexes ]

Franz: Ya! Lok at this! [ flexes more vigorously ]

Arnold Schwartzenegger: Oh, you guys make me sick. [ mimes vomiting ] This is what you have to do. Like this [ demonstrates the proper way to flex his muscles ] That's the way to do it! Look at you guys, how pitiful losers you are! You know something? I hate the way you guys talk! What's the matter with you? I mean, I sent you over here from Austria, to become real hard-core terminators, and look what you are - little termites! I wanted you to become real running men; but you are girly-men. Oh, come on, you make me sick! And look at those legs, they look like little skinny sticks! And those buttocks. Soft, like marshmallow. You guys are lucky you don't have a campfire here in the background. And believe me- [ sees sullen faces ] What's the matter?

Franz: It's no use, Arnold. Compared to you.. we are losers. And not even the grown-up kind, the little baby losers.

Hans: Ya. You know, you could very easily flick us with your ltitlest finger, and send us flying across the room until we landed in our own baby poop.

Arnold Schwartzenegger: I know. I know, you're right. But don't be downing yourself too much now. Listen to me now, and beleive me later: it doesn't matter how much you pump up those muscles, as long as you reach the full pumptential.

Franz: Oh.. okay..

Hans: Ya, I think I understand, Arnold. 'Sank you.

Franz: Ya. Ya, Arnold. You've given us something to hear now, and something to think about later.

Arnold Schwartzenegger: Ya. But now, hear this: "Live, from New York, it's Saturday.. [ claps ] ..Night!"

42 posted on 07/19/2004 12:40:37 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: traumer
No girly men - or manly women...
43 posted on 07/19/2004 12:52:34 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
New Republican Campaign Slogan:

Girly Men Or Us


45 posted on 07/19/2004 12:55:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: traumer
New Republican Campaign Slogan:

Girly Men Or Us


46 posted on 07/19/2004 12:55:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: traumer
New Republican Campaign Slogan:

Girly Men Or Us


47 posted on 07/19/2004 12:56:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: traumer

Umm, that doesn't really narrow down the voting block.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 1:24:43 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

"Umm, that doesn't really narrow down the voting block "

HA ! What do you mean ?


49 posted on 07/19/2004 1:26:38 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
Well it could have been worse. He could have borrowed the Kerry line 'lying corrupt SOBs'. Come to think of it, if the shoe fits...
50 posted on 07/19/2004 1:27:16 PM PDT by snooker
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To: traumer

If you feel insulted by being called "girlie," doesn't that make YOU a bigot, chauvenist, and woman-hater? Shouldn't a Sensitive New-Age Guy be down with insinuations of effeminacy?


51 posted on 07/19/2004 1:29:00 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

I'm confused with all these new terms and talk... What does 'metrosexual' mean ??

Somebody living in a city - for sure... but what sex(ual preference) ??


52 posted on 07/19/2004 1:33:29 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
Democrats said Schwarzenegger’s remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations.

I am a woman.

This does not insult me.

Distracts from budget negotiations! What a laugher.

Once again the dems prove they do not represent those they claim to represent.

53 posted on 07/19/2004 1:36:37 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: snooker

Another girlie boy: Ron Reagan


54 posted on 07/19/2004 1:44:50 PM PDT by redherring
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To: John Jorsett

"metrosexual (met.roh.SEK.shoo.ul) n:
An urban male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
—metrosexuality n.

That sounds like 'homosexual' to me.... - but, ehm...
Not that there is anything wrong with that !!


55 posted on 07/19/2004 1:45:45 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Hollywoodghost
Arnold knows the nature of the RATS. He had to make an overt effort to work with them, despite his understanding that they'd subvert and sabotage every honest effort. Now, he can take the issues directly to the California people and gain larger victories than if the Democrats had co-operated with him in the first place.

The pathological Arnold hating by a small cadre here is baffling to me. Only goofballs can't fathom that Schwarzenegger is a quantum leap from Gray Davis or Cruz Bustamante.
56 posted on 07/19/2004 1:47:25 PM PDT by StumpyPete
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To: traumer

Why should he be sorry? The truth hurts. Especially when used against commie, pinko, leftist, facist, demonrat foppish dandies.


57 posted on 07/19/2004 2:46:48 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Michael Moore is a filthy piece of distended rectum.)
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To: michigander

Thanks for posting that. It is still so funny. I loved it!!


58 posted on 07/19/2004 2:49:26 PM PDT by Feiny (I can resist anything but temptation.)
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To: MoralSense

From hanging out at World Gym in Marina del Rey, I have met many old time bodybuilders including Arnold. Check out www.classicbodybuilders.com really amazing photos from the pioneers of the sport.


59 posted on 07/19/2004 2:52:31 PM PDT by Feiny (I can resist anything but temptation.)
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To: traumer

Gotta love it. First Dick Cheney and now Arnie. I hope this is a new trend. Speak your minds, fellas, and political correctness be damned.


60 posted on 07/19/2004 2:56:15 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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