Posted on 07/18/2004 8:51:39 PM PDT by JFD3
Papers please...comrade...
"the citizenry should increase the amount of personal sovereignty it gives to the government in exchange for personal safety. "
GAG !! With oxymoronic friends who think like that we will never survive our enemys.
LOL, this must be a joke post.
Welcome to FR, BTW...
Well,Libertarians,whether large or small L,are a peculiar lot.
Sieg Heil!
So are fascists, for that matter.
-Well,Libertarians,whether large or small L,are a peculiar lot.-
We don't invite the government to solve all our problems, much less ensnare us into a police state. Peculiar, you think ? I call it sane, and so did the Founders of our Nation who forsaw this sort of crap coming and demanded a Bill of Rights.
Now, even so-called conservatives find the limits on government to be dangerous to Americans.
Head for the hills, it is not only socialists who wish to destroy America anymore. It is americans.
The United Kingdom has all the measures I advocate except the National ID, yet they are still a free society.
Dammit, I don't want the terrorists to use our own freedom against us to kill us. Urban centres should be monitored by cameras.
"We don't invite the government to solve all our problems"
We can't have a free market economy without protecting the populace, without the Rule of Law. It is a reasonable bargain.
Excellent points. Let's just hope the Republicans aren't out burning any black churches tonight, too!
-Dammit, I don't want the terrorists to use our own freedom against us to kill us.-
and do away with our Freedom is your answer to that ?
Putting cameras in major urban centres, or giving an American M16 the power to monitor sketchy activity by NON citizens is not what you describe.
"Those that trade liberty for preceived security deserve neither liberty, nor security" - Ben Franklin.
-Let's just hope the Republicans aren't out burning any black churches tonight, too!-
Why do you say such a thing as that ?
Dammit, I don't want the terrorists to use our own freedom against us to kill us
I'm more weary of jackbooted thugs than terrorists. Just wait till political opponents are considered 'terrorists' if some nut like John Kerry wins.
Even Tony Blair said in the House of Commons, where I got this phrase, "this is no time for libertarian nonsense."
You think the UK is safer from terrorism than is the US?
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