Posted on 07/16/2004 12:29:03 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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"Udell, now a 270-pound judo expert who describes himself as a "war-type guy," said Bush had an extraordinary memory and ability to process information. From Udell's perspective, Bush's ability to overcome his aristocratic schooling at Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., and Yale University and mix with the other guardsmen was more impressive. "It is OK to get a good education, but some of those people are a little off the wall," he said. "I just wanted to make sure that he was in it for real."
Udell said he spent six hours a day for six months training Bush. And that's not all. "We would go to the bar and play dead bug just like everybody else," he said. When someone yelled "dead bug" the pilots would hit the floor and stick their hands and feet up in the air. "The last guy to do that has to buy the next round," Udell said, laughing. "He was really good with folks," he said. But the young pilot did not take insults well: "You can't put him down too easily. He's really tough. He'll fight you." "
Sounds like GW knew how to be a good leader..even as a young officer.
Udell seems to think Bush is very intelligent...Which we all know is true.
Again..thanks for this post ravingnutter....I will add it to my info vault
You should have put this February article on your other thread about the AP court business:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172788/posts
Air National Guard was not necessarly a good way of decreasing the odds of going to Vietnam. Lots of ANG pilots and enlisted men were activated and served in Nam. Army National Guard would have been a better option to lower the odds.
You should enter the publish date ESPECIALLY when article is from months ago. I didn't realize that it was old when I replied earlier.
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Why are you stirring up this story?"
Because unlike too many folks who just sit around crying about how the media is just ignoring the truth and won't let people see the truth blah, blah, blah...
I feel it is better to find that truth and then post it where ever I can so people will see that truth. The more people will do that...the more we can get around those media folks and get the truth out there.
From about 1965 to 1972 anybody who enlisted in something other than the Marines or the Infantry was, in fact, evading the draft and it's probable outcome ~ namely, if you were drafted the odds were good you'd go to the Marines or the Infantry.
Why don't we have anybody running for top office who served in the Marines or the Infantry in Viet Nam during the Viet Nam War?
After the Bush AWOL story had percolated for months, Col. Turnipseed finally remembered another glitch in his story: the fact that National Guard regulations allowed Guard members to miss duty as long as it was made up within the same quarter. And, in fact - according to the Times - that's what Bush did.
"A document in Mr. Bush's military records," the paper said, "showed credit for four days of duty ending Nov. 29 and for eight days ending Dec. 14, 1972, and, after he moved back to Houston, on dates in January, April and May." The paper found corroboration for the document, noting, "The May dates correlated with orders sent to Mr. Bush at his Houston apartment on April 23, 1973, in which Sgt. Billy B. Lamar told Mr. Bush to report for active duty on May 1-3 and May 8-10."
Yet another document obtained by the Times blew the Bush AWOL story out of the water. It showed that Mr. Bush served at various times from May 29, 1973, through July 30, 1973 - "a period of time questioned by The Globe," the Times sheepishly admitted.
As to my name, I got that from a bunch of rabid Dems on another forum during the impeachment. I was still lurking at FR then, but was posting stories (from the original sources rather than FR) that I found on FR on their forum. They called me a raving nutter, which I thought was hilarious, so when I signed up on FR, I used it. I wear it as a badge of honor, LOL!
As I've pointed out, this would have been more appropriately linked on the current news of the day's thread about the AP.
As to your implication this information wasn't thoroughly researched, posted and discussed all along--including this February article--that is false. We are all well-informed here contrary to your insinuations that my question conveyed a lack of interest. I am completely well-versed on this topic.
If you are going to post an old article in the future, please include the date in the headline in parenthesis, and include in your comments that there is a contemporary event that relates to resurrecting the article. Thank you.
I thought I had put that on there.
The point of posting the article was to get the info out there that was buried in the tail end of the article...
That way people who may not have seen it may see it now.
That's where the White House is messing up. Today's dumbed down voters learn by Pavlovian repetition. The AP typically repeats the keyphrase du jour once a paragraph in every story, ever day, for a week or two. By contrast, the GOP still believes stating the truth once a month is enough for people with IQs to absorb.
It isn't. How mmany people still thing the president sais "Niger" and "yellowcake" in his famed (urban legend) 16 word sentence?
Maybe because AP is stirring up the pot again? And sometimes it is best to let a relevant story stand on it's own as a re-post so it will get more attention. I have seen it done on FR before. I think the problem is in not specifying that it was a re-post or an older article. As she/he is fairly new from what I can tell from the sign up date, I see no harm/no foul, it is important info that needs to be brought to the forefront in light of the AP case.
And the average voter stil doesn't know it't out there.
"As to the Wilson saga, there is a grand jury underway and the WH would be fools to make public comment on the issue. The truth IS getting out there"
As with the NG/Vietnam factoid, the point is to NOT let the truth get out there to the average voter until after Novemeber 2. The ploy is to keep the average voter so confused by rumor that they don't know WHAT to believe, and either put in a last minute, defiance vote for the party alleging itse;f a victim of a divisive smear campaign, or don't vote at all.
All the AVERAGE voter knows is that Wilson says he debunked the president's "yellowcake statement" and his wife was "outted" in "revenge" for him going against the administration's wishes. The truth obviously has NOT come into play at all.
Thanks for the repost. Good stuff.
Or the actual title.
You know I'm well-versed on this story, but giving it contemporary context is helpful. I've been aware of the AP court shenanigans.
And as I mentioned...I thought I had placed the Feb date in the published section.
My point is to get the info to those who did not know about it.
The average voter knows Bush served and they are done with it. The AP is trying to resurrect and I contend this article should have been linked on one of those threads. BTW, posting actual headlines are the guidelines.
As to Wilson, that story is getting out there, despite the cries from some that it's not. It would not be right for the WH to speak out on Plame and Wilson at this time. They are cooperating with that grand jury investigation. Patience on that one.
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