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Mo. High Court May Decide Whether Boy Can Be Circumcised
Kansas City Channel ^ | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.

"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.

But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.

Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.

"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.

Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.

"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.

Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.

"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.

Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.

"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.

Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: anteaters; circumcision; cleanliness; mutilation; warheads
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To: Xenalyte; Bella_Bru

LMAO! i think a sense of humor in a man is even more impt than if he is circumcised or not!


201 posted on 07/16/2004 12:51:57 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

PSA???


202 posted on 07/16/2004 12:57:04 PM PDT by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: presidio9

public service announcement.... not penile servicing agreement....ya pervert... : )


203 posted on 07/16/2004 12:57:46 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy; presidio9; hobbes1

In a related story, xsmommy denied reports of offering penile service agreements for the month of August saying, "Look the July contracts all went soft anyway....."


204 posted on 07/16/2004 1:03:02 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Glenn; Xenalyte

I can find humor in almost any subject.
A good sense of humor is essential to life, those who have no sense of humor usually die miserable and lonely.

XL, I'll help you laugh some more.


205 posted on 07/16/2004 1:05:51 PM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Darksheare
those who have no sense of humor usually die miserable and lonely.

I have a great sense of humor. I also know when it is appropriate. Apparently you went to the "Whoopie" school of laughter.

206 posted on 07/16/2004 1:08:44 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Servant of the 9

>> I have heard oral sex discussed by over 100 women over the years, and all but one or two have said they didn't do uncircumcised men.<<

There goes one Jewish stereotype out the window!


207 posted on 07/16/2004 1:12:12 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Xenalyte
As a woman whose experience is, um, largely confined to those who have had the surgery, seeing one who hasn't is something of a startle. Even if we're warned first.

Sounds like you've done some "circumspection".

208 posted on 07/16/2004 1:13:10 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Glenn

Actually, no.
I went to the Fort Sill Field Artillery Training Center and learned to laugh because one had to.
You obviously went to the Puritan school of humor, "If someone's having fun by God it must be stopped!"


209 posted on 07/16/2004 1:13:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Modernman

Maybe your post 28 is the reason for your post 32. What self-respecting Southern girl would ever tell you that she WOULD do that for you, except only for the issue of circumcision?


210 posted on 07/16/2004 1:15:04 PM PDT by dangus
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To: stands2reason

Given European hygeine...


211 posted on 07/16/2004 1:22:04 PM PDT by dangus
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To: cyborg
or vice versa.
212 posted on 07/16/2004 1:22:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cyborg

Yikes.. Yes here in NY IS a minefield for dating.


213 posted on 07/16/2004 1:25:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good grief people, be reasonable.

Well, in this case there is no middle ground. When something is either-or, how can you compromise? "Let's only circ him 1/2 way?"

Having been through this with my wife after my son's birth (and being the one who capitulated) I can tell you it's not easy.

214 posted on 07/16/2004 1:53:24 PM PDT by whd23 (It's long past time to end the moon-worshipping death cult)
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To: whd23

Life ain't easy.... but you'd think people could live it without the courts deciding it for them.


215 posted on 07/16/2004 1:55:05 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: SoothingDave
120 posts and nobody's noted that this description is just wrong. Makes it sound like they peel the top layer off the whole thing.

At birth, the skin is attached to the glans. Before it can be removed then do have to "peel" it off the glans. It can remain attached as late as four years old.

216 posted on 07/16/2004 1:59:03 PM PDT by whd23 (It's long past time to end the moon-worshipping death cult)
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To: whd23
Yes, the glans. Not the entire penis, which is what they say in the article.

SD

217 posted on 07/16/2004 2:02:25 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: johniegrad
I once knew a Pediatrician that saved all the foreskins from circumcisions that he did and sewed them together to make a wallet. The only problem was that, when you rubbed it, it became a suitcase.

LOL! Good one!

218 posted on 07/16/2004 2:03:36 PM PDT by usadave
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To: HairOfTheDog
Life ain't easy.... but you'd think people could live it without the courts deciding it for them.

In this case it's an unnecessary, irreversible procedure.

The only reason I "gave in" was for the sake of my marriage. If my wife and I were estranged, I could see the issue escalating.

219 posted on 07/16/2004 2:09:11 PM PDT by whd23 (It's long past time to end the moon-worshipping death cult)
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To: disclaimer
I thought Female Genital Mutilation was illegal regardless. Oh, my mistake, they're talking about mutilating a little boy. Carry on.

Do you consider any kind of plastic surgery, whether done on adults or children, "mutilation"?

220 posted on 07/16/2004 2:09:31 PM PDT by usadave
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