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Mo. High Court May Decide Whether Boy Can Be Circumcised
Kansas City Channel ^ | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.

"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.

But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.

Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.

"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.

Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.

"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.

Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.

"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.

Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.

"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.

Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: anteaters; circumcision; cleanliness; mutilation; warheads
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To: Glenn

I can find humor in damn near anything, and do. Now I'm laughing at you. See how easy that was?


161 posted on 07/16/2004 11:21:41 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I mean for the guys my age. I expect the little guys are still getting help from the parents.


162 posted on 07/16/2004 11:22:26 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: js1138

Sorry, get the boy snipped... why should have to endure a life time of less then pleasurable sex when he's older because his mother, who is not his guardian wants him to look like a turtle in the shell.


163 posted on 07/16/2004 11:22:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: AnAmericanMother
And from THIS sort of creature you can expect "meticulous hygiene"? Not hardly.

Getting a boy to put soap and water on his hands is one thing...getting him to put soap and water on Mr. Johnson is quite another. It won't be a problem.
164 posted on 07/16/2004 11:23:08 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Xenalyte

The way I look at it is this.

I'm lost in the forest with some beautiful chick- no rain, no streams no lakes. Given that the cleanliness index is related to the willingness index, I figure that I got two maybe three days more than the guy with the gratuitous penis flab for a few moments of ecstasy. No way I'm gonna give up that chance.


165 posted on 07/16/2004 11:23:37 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: BikerNYC
Calimari tips in red sauce.

LOL

SD

166 posted on 07/16/2004 11:24:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: TontoKowalski

Actually, babies really don't feel it. First of all, the nerves connecting the brain to the skin and organs haven't fully developed at birth -- so there is less pain anyway then there would be for an adult. Secondly, they use a local anesthetic to dull whatever pain remains. I've been to many religious circumcisions. The baby doesn't even cry about half the time.


167 posted on 07/16/2004 11:25:35 AM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: TontoKowalski

Funny, several men I know who had circumcisions later in life have told me its far far far better since circumcision.


168 posted on 07/16/2004 11:26:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: TontoKowalski; NCjim
Cleanliness is next to Godliness, and this applies equally to males and females.

I wouldn't want any part of this skank, that's for damn sure.


169 posted on 07/16/2004 11:27:04 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: cyborg
Ahh it's the annual Circumcision Thread. I wondered when it would raise its head.

My favorite all-time FR circumcision quote is:

"Uncircumcised penises don't look natural."

I see there are some keeper quotes already and we're not even to 500 posts yet.

170 posted on 07/16/2004 11:27:34 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: US admirer
gratuitous penis flab

Great name for a band.

171 posted on 07/16/2004 11:28:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Be a Dollar a Day FReeper, and SMILE when you get your Mastercard bill!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"The Flab Four"


172 posted on 07/16/2004 11:29:18 AM PDT by US admirer
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To: xsmommy; Xenalyte
he is a fun sort.... ; )

I am available for parties, but I don't do characters.

173 posted on 07/16/2004 11:30:22 AM PDT by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

LOL


174 posted on 07/16/2004 11:30:45 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: BikerNYC
If you don't watch my boy like a hawk, he gets out of the bathtub just as dirty (but muddier) as when he got in. And at 12 he's getting too old for me to stand over him, so I don't know if his private parts are the only clean place on him. (But if his hands are still dirty, I know the rest of him is too! :-D )

Guess his dad'll have to do the same sort of inspection MY dad had to do on his EMs in the Army in WWII . . .

175 posted on 07/16/2004 11:31:13 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: MEGoody
If he was only seeing her to get oral sex, then she is well rid of him.

Someone who has issues with oral sex probably also has other sexual hang-ups.

176 posted on 07/16/2004 11:32:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: HamiltonJay
why should have to endure a life time of less then pleasurable sex when he's older

Whatever makes you think that uncut guys can't enjoy sex?

177 posted on 07/16/2004 11:34:32 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Xenalyte
If you can find humor in this topic, you've got real problems, Ace. Seek help.

Yeah, Ace! What he said!

178 posted on 07/16/2004 11:35:40 AM PDT by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: Xenalyte
I was mostly commenting on the "largely."

Huh, huh... She said "large."

179 posted on 07/16/2004 11:37:34 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: cyborg

Hold on a sec:

Do you consider giving lewinskis to be a chore?


180 posted on 07/16/2004 11:40:49 AM PDT by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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