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To: Voice in your head

This is the position of libertarians (generally extreme secularist cultural liberals) who don't have the guts to say they want sodomite marriage.

Marriage is a contract between two people and society. A contract between two people is just in a lawyer's office. A marriage is and has always been a very expensive public ceremony surrounded by elaborate ritual. Society no longer has the power to use tradition, family, religion, or fear of ostracism to protect marriage, to protect wives and children from the vagaries of male hormones and mid life crises so it employs the state to do so.


21 posted on 07/16/2004 8:38:35 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
Marriage is a contract between two people and society. A contract between two people is just in a lawyer's office.

These days, a marriage contract is a far weaker legal instrument than any other contract. A marriage contract can be dissolved by either party for any or no reason. No lawyer would let a business sign such a meaningless contract.

25 posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:36 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Sam the Sham
"This is the position of libertarians generally extreme secularist cultural liberals) who don't have the guts to say they want sodomite marriage."

I've never seen this point of view published or heard it spoken. Do you have a URL?

51 posted on 07/16/2004 9:39:57 AM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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To: Sam the Sham
This is the position of libertarians (generally extreme secularist cultural liberals) who don't have the guts to say they want sodomite marriage


Oral sex is sodomy. Do you object to heterosexual oral sex (sodomy) within a state-sanctioned marriage?

62 posted on 07/16/2004 10:27:46 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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